Sixty8panther

The new trucks wil be AWSOME without a doubt... but let's face it the way to win back American CAR buyers is to build great CARS not trucks. Great trucks are nice but they're no substitute for our beloved B-bodys and musclecars.

Fun Wheel Drive... yes I guess you could call RWD fun wheel drive.

Ummm... :blink: I'll just pretend I did not hear that. Now as far as this PassWind, No way in hell would that driver be alive after that crash. A 120mph airbag in the face from 2" away.... a broken neck would be the least of his problems. *shudders* Anyway as far as this thing crumpling up like a tin can I'm sure a few would say it's better than my 1968 Camaro or some other American classic car that distributes the forces to the passanger while barely denting. :rolleyes: I should be dead after my accident. Head on into a guardrail in a 1968 Camaro wiht the front bumper & monunting hardware removed, no air bag and no crumpple zones, it's a mystery how I didn't get decapitated. (in all fairness I had a four point harness on and was sitting in a aluminum race seat) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Six...8aftercrash.jpg But outside of my random blabbering let's just say Chinese Automakers are in the dark ages.

Or, an even more relavant question is how quickly can you get the car into that RPM range... The most annoying thing about the S2000 is that you have to FedEx a request for WOT to the butterfly a week in advance in ordcer to get the power when you want it. Okay I'm grossly exagerating for effect but the truth is it annoys me to have to wait like 3.75 seconds in order ofr the car to reach it's powerband at WOT. If I'm sitting in my Camaro at idle at a red light and it turns green, from the moment I push that gas pedal down to the floor to the car tearing up the rear tires mercilesly is only about 0.25 seconds. Basicaly it's INSTANT. And FYI my Camaro's 350 is setup & cammed to reach peak horsepower at relatively high rpms. The engine only really starts turning at about 4500 and redlines at 7000rpm. I've run the car at 7100 for a sec. or two before. In a life or death situation I'm sure 8000 would not kill it. These new cars (Hondas in particular) seem to have a serious delay. It's like there's a blockage in the fel line or something. Even BMWs (I'm a BMW fan myself) have a serious delay in throttle response. <_<

I honestly do not see a discrepancy in QUALITY between the STS and GS photos. Am I blind? Does the slightly wide gap at the bottom of the trunk on the STS bother you? or the STS No* emblem? What relevance does that pic have when I do not see a trunk pic of the GS and I do not see a pic of the front of the STS. It's an apples to oranges comparison. WTF are you talking about? I post pics of GM classics to prove a point about GM classics... we're talking abotu a NEW Cadillac vs. a new Lexus. Do my p[osts of classic cars to prove a point about styling or tradition bother you? :unsure:

I stil say that Blazer and Isuzu are much more worhtwile and interesting than any Civic or Integra based custom. The Blazer is kind of cool. You have to respect the time and devotion it takes to make something like that. I personally would rather start off wiht a '71 Nova or a '34 Ford if I was doing a radical custom but that's just me.

Here's a great article. When this came out I felt like this guy read my mind. I've always wanted to make a "1965" Chevy Panther clone.

I like the ide of the badges, love it as a matter of fact.... it's the placement of them that seems pretty dumb in some instances. I'd be the first one ot say we need to be more proud of our Products. It's the MARK OF EXCELLENCE after all.

Yup.... Bobby Orr was amazing. Did I ever mention I once sat in Adam Oats' Porsche? I did in like 1996. 1989 Slant Nose Turbo (930) navy blue with a white top & interior. The only contents inside were a "Seal" CD and a reg. in his name. He lives in North Andover... or did back then. his is the car except reverse the colors:

Toyoguy: Go grab your binky and stop whining. Were we talking about resale? NO Why can't you Toyo/Lex/Hon/Acura fans ever stick to the point. As soon as one fo your favorite vehicles starts to show serious flaws it's back to the resale value again... so relevant in this case. :rolleyes:

Back OUT of the gutter... here's the breakdown: Why is it called a Z/28? Because it just so happened that when the semi-clandestine 302 powered race bred package came out as a factory option in 1967 the option code Z/27 was taken. Z/28 had no significance. None what so ever. It GAINED significance when word on the street became: X: "Did you hear about the super high reving high horsepower 302 cubic inch race motor that you can get in a 1967 Camaro?" Y: "What the hell are you talking about, they don't have a 302 in the Camaro" X: "No seriously, if you get option package Z/28 it gives you a Trans Am race package for the street, they throw in a bunch of goodies!" Y: "What's it called?" X: It's kind of a secret that you can get one for the street, there's no name for it. It's not like RS or SS... it's just a package that happens to be option code Z/28" So now by 1968 when Pete Estes decides to give the Z/28 some marketing money the "Z/28" option code is so famouos it has a following. MAny gearheads know what a Z/28 is just as they know that it's very underrated and NOT a drag car, rather a race bred car for the likes of Laguna Seca and Lime Rock. So what name would suit the car better than the one already used by the gearheads and car nerds. And thus the Z/28 is still to this day the most famous option code in history.... even though in it's first year there were no emblems, no advertising and no mention of the car in official litterature. :)

The Coolest Game on Earth.... and possibly the universe!

Sadly, Everything I know about Guitars could be written on a cocktail napkin with a magic marker. I'll pass. Actually I'll take a stab at some GM colors: - White Diamond Pearl - Sunset Orange Metallic - Daytona Yellow - Tuxedo Black - Ivory White - LeMans Blue - Cortez Silver - Fathom Green - Hugger Orange - Glacier Blue - Frost Green - Garnet Red - Ash Gold - Can-Am White - Monza Red - Riverside Gold - Butternut Yellow - Burnished Brown - Olympic Gold - Silver Birch Metallic - Wedgewood Blue (anyone for a '59 Invicta?) - Rallye Green - Bowling Green - Claret Dark Metallic - Firethorn Red - Light Beige - Cinnabar - Viking Blue (oh, waoit that was Ford) - Magnetic Red - Millenium Yellow - Dark Calypso Green Metallic - Harmony Black - Dark Cherry Metallic - Dark Caribe Metallic - Coral Pink - Anniversary Red Metallic - Sunburst - Eggplant - Victory Red - Blonde - Tampico Red - Surf Green - Artic White - Shale - Glacier Green Metallic - Pearl Fawn Metallic - Silvermist Metallic - Pastel Red - Dark Torreador Metallic - Cappucino Cream - Grotto Blue - Island Teal - Montana Blue Metallic - Vegas Turquoise - Copper Glow Metallic - Argyle Blue - Sierra Spruce Metallic - Pastel Green - Seafrost Green - Sequoia Green - Aztec Bronze Metallic - Persian Sand - Carmine Metallic - Regal Red - Cordovan Maroon - Lemonwood Yellow - Argent Silv - Gotham Gold - Teal Blue - Matador Red - Dark Fawn - Marina Blue Metallic - Azure Aqua - Fathom Blue - Monaco Blue - Beaumont Beige - Ivy Green - Autumn Gold I could keep going.... :P

I love Starions. I came real close to buying one but ended up going with the Pontiac since I was not thrilled about a car with 95,000 miles that needed a new turbo. Still it was a very cool vehicle.

Someone was bound to say that. :rolleyes:

Yup. 1999 Cavalier. The rear quarter panel also gave it away.

Wow... useless and ugly, should have known it was from 1950s USSR!

EXT... cant' wait to see the front

fellowship?

yup... their video for that "They really want you" /"Dolls" Whatever the hell the song was called was cool.

Great thread BTW... here's a few "gems" I'd love to pick up just for the sheer craziness of their rarity: Corvair Rampside Truck http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-C...sspagenameZWDVW 66 Corvair 2 door wiht a V8 kit ready for a SBC or BBC swap http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-C...sspagenameZWDVW 1959 LeSabre (God I want this car soooo bad!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buick-LeSab...sspagenameZWDVW

Ouch, that was a low-blow. I'd rather die in flames in a Fireo than drive a Honda. Relax, I'm only beign serious. :) :huh:

That's one hole even I might not venture down.

I've got hundreds of 1:18 scale cars, and several Cadillacs but I never bought this one. The rear looks so cheap since they substituded gray plastic for the trunk tail-light filler. Also I like the styling of the '92-97 STS better. I own one after all. I sold Marcia's Grandmother a '99 STS though.

This would be a very silly move. I'm sure you realize you could turn in your lease car, wait a month and find it at an auction for $3500. At this point a dealer would buy it and throw some money at it in terms of maintenance items and such while selling it for you for a grand total of $5900. I may be exagerating a little bit but not much.