Blake Noble

Opinions are also like assholes in that they all stink as well. Ford made the Pinto for almost a decade and managed to sell 3,127,322 of them total (production totals for each year are here: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1971-1980-fo....htm/printable). All I'm saying is that how many cars a plant cranks out each day, week, month, year, and decade isn't really indicative of a quality vehicle or not and that's my filthy, stinking opinion. :AH-HA_wink: I do respect you for overseeing a plant that many that cars made, though. I can't imagine how stressful it could have been at times.

Here we go again, right when I thought we were on better terms with each other. The Corsica/Beretta weren't failures, but they most certainly weren't great cars. That's my opinion steeped in personal experience. I've had an aunt on my dad's side of the family who owned one that bought the farm with about 90,000 miles on the odometer. I've also had an aunt on my mom's side of the family who owned two of them; and she wound up having a mechanic taking the good engine out of the car that was just about rusted in half and putting it into the car that had a solid body but with an engine that had a cracked block. And it still wasn't reliable (she wound up selling it for a thousand bucks and buying a Lumina). I know you might hold them in a higher regard than just any other person; you supervised the plant that built them after all and I can understand why it ruffles your feathers PCS and why your opinion is different than mine. You're letting your emotions override your maturity here.

Although I think if the Aurora was going to have a "traditional" Oldsmobile name, it would have been "Toronado." An excellent post overall, Croc.

The GS is a nice car, buttttt ... I'd rather have a 4-4-2. Of course, I am a bit biased.

RIP Chicagoland's hopes and dreams. He barely knew you.

I see your side of the argument. The reason the Cimarron is repetitively chosen is because it's such an easy target to pick; you can find a million different ways to bash the exterior, powertrain, etc. The same can also be said for the Pontiac Aztek (which I will cover in the future; the next installment, however, is going to be the Chevrolet Beretta/Corsica). I'm seriously thinking about making a blog for these articles so that I can expand the scope of the series to non-GM cars. That was another factor that made me chose the Cimarron for this article; since this is a GM forum, I tend to stick with GM cars. And GM, god bless 'em, has made a garden variety of $h!ty cars in their 100 years in the automotive industry. This is probably what I'm going to go to college for first: automotive journalism. Then, perhaps, automotive design if the American auto industry can correct itself. I'd actually love to work for Ford.

"False Light" - Isis

Who needs a rifle and bullets? EXCITEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!! can also take down two deer with one shot. And you know a good old fashioned bottle of Mothers will bring that right on out. http://www.car-accidents.com/2006-Auto-story/2-26-06.html

Wait, I forgot to mention the kicker with this one: a mailbox did that. And the damage to the mailbox? It was just tilted over and that's it. Mailbox: 1. Buick: 0. http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/acciden...y/12-18-03.html

That's somewhat surprising. I know the biggest douchebags alive usually own these types of lots, but one was pretty serious about trading me a 2000 Firebird for my truck. I didn't go for it because both airbags had been popped.

I should post some photos I took at the Louisville car show two Fridays ago. And I took photos of cars that were non-GM too, like the 2010 Mustang.

Except for the Camaro, all of the F-Bodies I've found were at buy-here-get-raped-here lots and three out of four times, they seemed to willing to take any offer thrown at them. With the economy in such rough shape, I believe these places are feeling the crunch worse than anyone.

I found "plan B" yesterday: there's a 1999 Pontiac Firebird V6 five-speed in Somerset in black, with T-tops, and 111,000 miles if my memory serves me right -- exactly the way I want a Firebird. The $h!ty buy-here-pay-here lot that had it wants $4,995 for it, but I know it isn't worth that. I'd say they have around $2500 in the car and it needs the door lock assemblies for both the driver and passenger side doors, a new driver's side taillight, and a bezel that goes around the shifter. And, as luck would have it, I know where there is a black, five-speed Firebird sitting in a junkyard for me to pick parts off of. Any advice on what the car might be worth? I'm expecting a phone call tomorrow, and if I don't get it, I'm calling the dealership in LaFollette Tuesday to ask one last time where the Camaro stands. Depending on what answer I get, I might pursue the Firebird in Somerset.

You know that is going to buff right out to a nice 'n purty shine, yep.

Photo 2 has been touched up as well. Is there something gruesome in the photos that they don't want us to see?

QUOTE (Josh)Kid Rock, Kirk Maltby, Uncle Kracker. Those are the ones I've hung with.......recently lol Working at a telecommunications place I can't really say who I've "hung out with or met" but there have been some pretty famous individuals. I've also spoken to Mr. Lutz personally as well as Gary Cowger and have been in the same room as Richard Wagoner. The last three names mentioned are the ones that matter the most to me however. I thought something smelled a little funny when I clicked on the link to see the first page of this thread. Kid Rock and Uncle Kracker? I actually forgot how horrible Josh's taste in music was; is he positive he lives in Michigan and not Mississippi?

QUOTE (CadillacKing3)Dick Vitale at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk ... How did you resist the urge to just violently rip his vocal chords out of his neck?

His friend was decapitated? Well $h!.

Sometimes I look at our driveway and wonder why we chose an Aura over a Charger.

Yeah, that's a bit annoying. I love a good bait-and-switch, classic douche move right there.

A few bricks are being shat.

Torque-steer?

Walt isn't the only one who's had to deal with G6 issues -- when we had ours, it was constantly in the shop for problems with the steering system. GM's electronic steering system is true junk. And our Impala before that, well, I'm certain the transmission was ready to buy the farm before we traded it off. Our Aura has been reliable so far, however, knock on wood. And I'm disappointed that my Sonoma is beginning to deteriorate at only 118,000 miles. GM's never going to build 'em as good as they built my '72 Cutlass again.

There's two red Jettas just like BV's rolling around Berea.

Uh, wow, I guess? First, all sources show that the Cimarron did not receive a V6 engine until 1985, not 1983 as you stated. It did get a five-speed manual in 1983, as you said, but I didn't make mention of that in my article. Second, the whole mission objective of this series is to roast the $h!tiest cars in automotive history. The Cimarron is one of them because of the damage it dealt to the Cadillac brand. It isn't meant to undermine Cadillac's regained reputation, that's an absurd accusation.