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I can't believe they actually said that...what about Led Zeppelin, The Who, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Queen, Judas Priest, et al? Are they nuts? I've never really gotten into Oasis, but with attitudes like that, I don't think I really want to. Black Sabbath defined a whole music genre...what the hell did Oasis do? Without the Beatles, there would be no Oasis nor a lot of other bands.

This is GREAT news! ----------------------------------------- Hillary, Granholm join political push to aid auto industry By Daniel Howes / The Detroit News Daniel Howes Comment on this story Send this story to a friend Get Home Delivery The political free-for-all to "save" Detroit's automakers is under way. Guess who's the first heavy-hitter to take Motown's case to the White House? Not Gov. Jennifer Granholm. Not Sens. Carl Levin or Debbie Stabenow. Not legendary Rep. John Dingell, Big Auto's fiercest defender on Capitol Hill. It's Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., who beat Granholm & Co. to the punch late last week and asked President Bush to convene a "National Auto Manufacturing Summit." In a letter, the woman who would be president asked Bush to focus his attention on the "enormous legacy costs, including paying the health care and pensions of retirees. Seeking solutions "The economic consequences of the government's failure to address these matters will be severe," wrote Clinton, whose state stands to lose thousands of jobs if bankrupt Delphi Corp. closes plants in New York. "A summit where everything can be put on the table, including legacy costs like health care and pensions, fuel efficiency, foreign competition and trade, could yield beneficial results and solutions for our auto industry." Granholm didn't know of Clinton's letter before it was made public. But she plans to say much the same thing in a letter scheduled to be sent Monday to each member of Michigan's congressional delegation. Her message to Democrats and Republicans: Get the Detroit-based auto industry's deepening troubles on the White House agenda -- soon. "We need to make the business climate more competitive for manufacturing," said Liz Boyd, Granholm's spokeswoman. " I don't think anyone is looking for a bailout. They're looking for level playing fields." Take a deeper look Backing Granholm are the most influential voices in Detroit -- the bosses of GM, Ford and Chrysler, the president of the United Auto Workers and Delphi Chairman Steve Miller, whose decision to file bankruptcy two weeks ago plunged the industry into a fit of doubt, recrimination and restructuring. It's no secret that Republican-controlled Washington is generally disinterested in Detroit's travails, problems it now wants others -- namely, the American taxpayers -- to solve. That's politics. But ask this: Does the scale of a potential failure of Detroit -- private health care obligations that become public ones, pension liabilities dumped on a government agency, the disappearance of American-controlled industry -- warrant a deeper look? It should. The truth is that Detroit's foreign competitors get far more "help" from their governments than Detroit does, starting with health care. Over time, that matters. Is such intervention distasteful to economic Darwinists? Sure. Is it anti-competitive and just more failed industrial welfare? Arguably. Should the market -- not government -- declare winners and losers? Ideally, yes. But this isn't an ideal world. Daniel Howes' column appears Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays. He can be reached at (313) 222-2106 or [email protected].

I'm not really a big SUV guy, but I have a fondness for Explorers because one of my friends owned a '96 back in high school and my mom has an '04. I have a lot of good memories in Explorers. Also, I really like the later model Oldsmobile Bravadas. I also like the '02-'05 Mountaineer...the '06 is kinda weird though. And the Mariner is pretty sexy, IMO. As for pre-1990 stuff, I love jacked up Broncos and C/K Blazers.

The thing I don't understand is how this guy was not aware that he had hit something yet was still able to drive normal for 3 miles. There was a picture of the car posted somewhere and the windshield was completely smashed and cracked into his field of vision. How could he not be aware of a body dangling like a foot away from him? I think the old man was just using senility as an excuse to not be held accountable for an accident. I'm also curious of any other drivers noticed his car with a bodly dangling from it.

Nothing worse than just settling down into bed after drinking all night to hear a tinny, mechanical voice out in the hallway, ear-piercing sirens, and be blinded by flashing lights at 3 AM. God I hate false fire alarms.

Driver goes 3 miles with lodged body A motorist hits a pedestrian on 34th Street, then drives to the Sunshine Skyway with the victim stuck in the windshield. The St Petersburg Times By CRAIG PITTMAN, Staff Writer Published October 20, 2005 St. Petersburg Times ST. PETERSBURG - A 93-year-old motorist struck and killed a pedestrian Wednesday evening, then drove about 3 miles with the body lodged in the windshield until he was stopped at a Sunshine Skyway tollbooth. The driver told officers he thought the body had fallen from the sky, said St. Petersburg police Officer Mike Jockers. "He had no idea he had been involved in an accident," Jockers said. "He doesn't totally understand what happened." The crash occurred about 8:30 p.m. when the 52-year-old pedestrian attempted to cross 34th Street S from east to west near 46th Avenue S, witnesses told police. The pedestrian made it across two of the southbound lanes before he was hit by a 2002 Chevy Malibu, which was traveling about 45 mph, police said. The impact severed the pedestrian's lower right leg, which remained in the street. His head and arms went through the windshield, while the rest of his body flipped up onto the roof of the car, Jockers said. "The driver continued southbound, as the eyewitness said, like nothing happened," Jockers said. As the car approached the toll plaza, the toll taker thought it was a prank, until he saw the blood. When the driver stopped, the body fell into the car, Jockers said. A veteran traffic investigator, Jockers said it was one of the most gruesome scenes he has worked. Neither the name of the driver nor the name of the victim was released Wednesday. The victim had been living in a motel on 34th Street S. Friends said he had been trying to get to McDonald's for a bite to eat, Jockers said. The driver, who lives in Pinellas Park, told police that he was headed home. Pinellas Park, however, is miles in the opposite direction. "Obviously, he was confused," Jockers said. "Incredibly confused." The driver was taken to Bayfront Medical Center for evaluation. He will probably not face criminal charges, as he appeared unaware that he had been involved in an accident, Jockers said.

Or the 'American Edition' Camrys with the gold emblems because it's just so blingin'.

On Lincoln Way in east Ames, a few stations are currently having some type of gas war. Right now, regular unleaded is $2.09 per gallon at the Citgo, Casey's, and Phillip's 66 all right by each other. About half a mile west is a BP where 87 is $2.48, and further west most stations are averaging $2.50. It's crazy...I filled up my car for less than $30 for the first time in months!

Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star...need I say more?

I agree with you on the marketing...they look like A&F models and the whole techie / yuppy image that they're trying to sell looks like something straight out of The Real World. They're trying too hard to be chic and contemporary to the point where it's annoying. As for the car, I wouldn't be caught dead in it either. Subcompacts are not and never will be cool, no matter how many laptop / iPod fondling A&F models you put in there.

This list is pretty bogus...going by the songs I know, there are WAY better Def Leppard songs than "Pour some sugar over me." This seems like a list of best pop hit songs, not by musical quality. I figured Smells Like Teen Spirit would make the top 10...it never fails. :rolleyes: How did Britney Spears make #9? Are they joking? I agree with "The Message" getting #12...that's a great song. I didn't see anything Dream Theater or Queensryche on there, two bands that deserve to have at least one song each on that list. If "Mmmbop" or anything Aaron Carter is hiding somewhere on this list, I'm declaring it bunk.

My opinion is based upon the shape and the uncovered front end as well as the video captured shots showing the uncovered vehicle. The shape is nothing spectacular...I prefer the leaner Camrys from earlier generations. The wheels are small and disproportionate. With the more aggressive Fusion and upcoming Aura and Malibu, I was expecting Toyota to come up with a new Camry that was a little more daring. But it looks like they chose to tread the same old waters again. I think the only reason that the Camry looked good in those grainy video shots was because they had a high gloss silver paint on it and took the images from angles that hid the frumpy rear end. Now that I've seen pics of it in real world conditions, I'm thoroughly unimpressed by the shape.

Those grainy shots made it look halfway decent, but the camoed version is extremely dull. I thought Toyota was supposed to be going through a design revolution? If this is their revolution, GM and Ford have nothing to worry about in the style department as this new Camry looks like a frumpier, mini-me Avalon. And people criticize Buick for making old-man cars...this is about as geriatric as you can get without being in a home.

More mayhem...this time a third gen Firebird. *Check out the doofus in the Subaru WRX that tries to steal the show http://www.thirdgenracing.com/videos/Wild%...maro.com)).mpeg

Mmm, rubber. Smokin'

Late 70s Olds Omega sedan Some mid 70s GM coupe...I'm still trying to figure out what it was because it was too dark for me to see, but it had squarish taillights and a narrow opera window...I'm guessing it was an Oldsmobile. I know it wasn't a Cutlass because the taillights were square and the car seemed a little longer, but I'm almost sure it wasn't a Ford or Chrysler vehicle.

My thoughts exactly. Toyota plays with emotions...just look at their advertising "What if the air was clean again? What if the sky was bluer...blah, blah, blah..." Pass the barf bag, please...I don't know how much more I can take. So, while they make these feel-good magazine ads and TV jingles, they're ramping up production for the biggest Tundra yet. Where are all the greenies over that? What about the whale of an SUV known as Sequoia? I followed one of those today...it's gigantic! In real-life, I can't stand pretentious people...and Toyota is the most pretentious of all the automakers. I wouldn't mind them so much if they didn't have this nose-in-the-air attitude. Toyota's PR wizards have effectively taken mediocre, reliable cars and made them out to be the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Too bad that pot is full of fool's gold.

Country Squire and Colony Park.

$5.50 here in Iowa. I was lucky I got a job in high school where I did, because even though I started at 5.50, within a couple months I was up to 6.00, and by my senior year in High School I was making $8.00. The last couple summers I've worked there I was making $8.50/hour and putting in close to 60 hour weeks.

They don't light up all the towers anymore? I thought I remember seeing a pic of Fort Worth from the 80s or 90s or sometime when they had neon lights than ran up the corners and around the roof like they do on Reunion Tower in Dallas. I can't find a picture though.

The US has been shifting away from large skyscrapers since the early 90s. Most of the reason is due to companies moving their headquarters out to sprawling suburban complexes where they can get a "university-like" atmosphere. Skyscrapers used to symbolize the power and might of the company located within them, but now that we're in a digital age, that old concept is becoming outdated as centralized downtown locations have become less desirable due to the internet and other communications. It's kinda sad, because I would love for the US to hold the title of having the 'world's tallest building' again.

Look what oil can build you... Burj Dubai Tower Dubai, United Arab Emirates 160-200 floors 2132 ft (705 m) to 3116 ft (950 m) Completion in 2007 Estimated cost to build: $1 billion To get an idea of how tall this thing will be, the Sears Tower is 1,454 feet tall excluding the antennas...this could be anywhere from 700 ft to 1700 ft taller.

Check out this nonsense over at one of the Toyota boards: There's a huge difference between a washer fluid buoy and an engine stalling. I guess calling it a "Service Bulletin" is a little more gentle for their virgin ears. TSB is Toyotaspeak for "recall."

I was curious how many females are members of this site. I know staceface is one, but other than that, I don't know of any others.

Yeah, I just read an article written by Toyota PR boasting about how they would overtake GM in 2006. All I have to say is...whatever floats your boat, Toyota. Keep letting your quality slip and keep dumping your Camrys into fleets. Keep pounding it into the American public's heads about how environmentally friendly you are as you erect the beams for a plant which will build the largest, heaviest trucks Toyota has ever made. Lower your development time down to 12 months so that we can get more radio nobs falling off and sunroofs shattering, which you can then blame on debris and counter with "they're all like that." Or more cars stalling in the middle of busy intersections. Just make sure that when you recall 1 million vehicles, wait until Ford or GM has a bigger recall so you won't be in the spotlight. Better yet, deny it and blame it on the owner's incompetence, since Toyotas are built by the gods and all. But when you get that trophy #1 spot at the top, all eyes will be on every single move you make.