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Tammy and I went to the Seattle International Auto Show and posted some of the pictures we took onto the Pacific Northwest Camaro Club photo gallery. You can check them out here. There are some nice looking vehicles coming out very soon. Of course a few fall well into the fugly range as well. Enjoy

That is very impressive. Good solid torque across the board and the HP just climps to redline. Dayum! I spoke with a Saturn dealer ealier this week and the are still behind on Skys. Can't get enough of them. They had 2 at the dealership, one was the owner's and the other had just arrived and was waiting on pickup.

Ummm, the link you used Oldsmoboi, references an entirely different case. I am sure you didn't mean to reference a case on executing people. But, in any case, I can see you checked way deep into this and thanks. From the news article, it looked like the DP law was the only one that had problems, if the court also found the marriage law to be unconstitutional now then that changes the whole picture. In that case, you are entirely correct. Their decision was the sanest of all possible and eliminates that potential 5th option that I mentioned. Please remember, I only saw the news article so, as I said, there could be (and it turns out, there was) a lot I didn't see that changed the legal picture. To that end, I apologize for jumping in with only half the information. Let's hope the next step for New Jersey is one or two well crafted, intelligent laws. tmp-I wasn't and am not upset with you. Just pointed out that you decided to only comment on a minor point on my post. Please, let's not argue church and state. It never comes to a satisfactory conclusion. Cool?

Nice, very nice.

I think you meant to say "The guy must be HIGH!"

I looks to me that the law they found unconstitutional was the 'domestic partnership ' law and not the marriage law. The marriage law wouldn't have to be thrown out at all because of this action. It's the domestic partnership law, the new one, that has serious holes and issues. Please correct me if I am wrong. The problem was that the new law did not go far enough to protect people's rights. Am I correct on this? I think the courts want a useful and enforceable law on the books. You stated 4 options. The congress legally has a 5th although I am sure the would not use it. Remove the domestic partnership law from the books and either start all over or do nothing after that. Many states still don't have any domestic partnership laws. Now it could be that the actual decision the court sent down along with their instructions does cover everything you and I have been discussing and the news just condensed it. And there could be other things in there as well. But, please remember that whenever there are issues that blur the lines between what branch of the government does what it gets very tricky and sometimes ugly. BTW, thanks for keeping very civil with me as we discussed what I know to be a volitile issue. tmp - nice way to pull out a minor statement from my post. From what you stated then marriage is the providence of the church. If they are to 'protect the sanctity of marriage' and we are to have a separation of church and state, then that must be so. I never said I was against this. I just stated my own personal belief.

And what if the reaction is for the legislature to just remove the domestic partnership law from the books? That would also get rid of the unconstitutional law as well and the courts could do nothing about it. The court should have stated that if the congress wanted to keep a law like this in the books that they needed to amend it or amend the marriage law. Telling the legistlature that you must pass or amend a specific law or another one like it is outside of their jurisdiction. They have the responsibility to state whether or not the current law is constitutional or legal. They can then state that if there is to be a law like this it must fall within the framework of what is constitutional. The cannot order congress to amend the law. This is a tricky area of the Separation of Powers Act that has been argued as long as its been on the books so I do not think that we are going to resolve it here. A lot of what you and I are disagreeing on here is based on interpretation and people who have studied this their entire careers can't agree. BTW, what happens in 6 months if the legislature doesn't pass an amendment or the governor doesn't sign it?

Freakin' hilarious

My eyes, my eyes. I think I am blind.

What a potential mess. OK, before any jumps on my case please read the full post. I am talking about the New Jersey court, in effect, forcing the creation of legislation, not the marriage or civil unions of homosexual couples. With this ruling they have forced the legislature to create a law and that is not within their power. The courts are here to enforce and, if needed, interpet the law. The are not here to create new ones. This battle in New Jersey may just get ugly with this ruling. The Congress may create a law with exactly the opposite results as retaliation. Think its not possible? Think again. Sen Brownback's opinion may be a minority but NOONE likes being told what to do and our Congress is no exception. As for my feelings on the issue itself. I am ambivilant about what to call the unions. I believe marriage is the union of a man and woman in the eyes of God. But, I see no logical reason, in our society today, to refuse to honor and respect the commitment that two loving consentual adults have made to each other, or to provide that couple with legal protections and benefits. There does have to be a limit on how much we are willing to change the definitions though. And we have to be sure that we do not open this to horrendous abuse. I have heard of people wanting to remove the age of consent from our laws, or opening up the issue of polygamy again. I am NOT saying that those wanting this very basic right of marriage are for either of those ideas, just that the people for those ideas are waiting to see if they can use this issue for their own agenda. For those of you hoping and praying for your love and rights to be honored, I wish you the best.

Shhh, stop making sense. You'll make Buickman cry. Oh wait, he was banned, wasn't he? As bad as it sounds to hear dealerships closing, its part of business. The owner has another dealership and someone bought his franchise.

And this is why towing companies love 4 wheel drive vehicle in the winter. That's where most of their business is, the people who can't figure out that just because 4WD will get them started it won't necessarlily help them stop. We have plenty of stupid people out on the road. And more getting their licenses everyday. I am just ashamed that they used Washington State for this study.

OMG, Why? Yo, I be rollin' wit my Echo.

OK, now you are making me hungry, thanks. Chocolate cream and pumpkin (with plenty of whipped cream) are my favorites

I have two kids of my own and while I will be the first to admit they aren't perfect (how many parents nowadays will even admit that) I will say that they show people respect. Why? Because, I have taught them to. My son is 12 and my daughter 8. They have been going to car shows with us for years and have always known to respect other people cars. I've seen kids crawl over someones classics, my kids won't even touch them. Neither of them scream at the store for candy or treats, in fact they find kids who do that to be annoying. What's this mean? If parents will raise their kids to listen and respect others the way earlier generations were raised then a lot of these problems won't exist. Its the parents who want to be 'FRIENDS' with their kids instead of roll models and parents who are setting their 'little angels' up for failure. I honestly believe that not disciplining your children is a form of child abuse. Remember, I said my kids aren't perfect and I know their faults (trust me on that one) but I am proud of the people they are turning out to be.

Wow, that thing is just

Frozen

I saw one yesterday morning on my way home from work. It was just coming up by McChord AFB and heading into Tacoma. Looked a bit strange considering I had just passed a semi going the other way.

In some places that slap in the face will earn you a solid ass kicking. Or you just might get shot. You said the stupid crap and now are trying to backtrack? Don't blame anyone if they take your statements with a grain of salt.

Thanks NOS, I can't wait to see the final details

That shifter was also available in the 60s/70s Skylarks/GSs/GSXs as well. I am currently looking for all the parts to swap my 72 Skylark over to bucket seats with a floor shifter. The center console is made for that type shifter. I love the way it looks in those cars too.

Well put, Razor. Don't worry about it taking a bit of time to come to you. It was far to important to rush.

Take care of yourself and your family, Camino. Be glad in your memories of your father and the time you had together. You're in my prayers. I still miss my father but I am so glad of the relationship we had.

These groups just alienate most of the public by their extremist acts and agendas. They would be much better served if they would tone things down and attract more people. It is sad when people like this are making 'enviromentalist' into something people don't want to be connected with. I believe in taking care of the world we live in but cannot support Greenpeace because of the radicalism. I feel the same way about supporting PETA. When they were origanlly about taking decent care of animals they were OK, now they seem like a bunch of nutcases.

15.9%? This guy doesn't know insane... I was looking for... Are you married? Was it your idea? Do you have kids? Now, those can make you insane.