-Camaro-

Sweet it'll be in Gran Turismo 6 tomorrow too.

I like the styling, clearly BMW but very modern. Got to drive it around in Gran Turismo 6, it's a fun car.

Or 1969, or 1985, or 2020... I don't get how someone could say something so small could be out of date, it's like saying blue is so 2005...:¡

Damn, I was hoping it would be a little better than this... :\ Still not bad by any means... From Leftlane News: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro laps Nürburgring in 8:20 July22 General Motors has officially taken the wraps of the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro. Although images and specs leaked on the modern day muscle car last week, we now have the official figures straight from the horse’s mouth. As expected, the Camaro will be available in LS, LT and SS guises. The LS and LT models will do with a 3.6L V6 – mated to either a six-speed automatic or manual transmission – and will produce 300 horsepower and 273 lb-ft of torque. Despite having more power than the V6 versions of the Ford Mustang and Dodge Challenger, the V6-powered cars will return 26 mpg on the highway. Both the LS and LT models will ride on GM’s FE2 suspension. The top-level SS will be motivated by a 6.2L V8. When coupled with the six-speed automatic transmission, the SS will be good for 400 horsepower and 395 lb-ft of torque, while opting for the manual gearbox will net an additional 22 horsepower, for a grand total of 422 horsepower and 408 lb-ft of torque. The V8 powered car will return about 23 mpg on the highway. Other SS goodies will include four-piston Brembo brakes, a sportier FE3 suspension and Competitive/Sport modes for the car’s StabiliTrak stability control system, including launch control for manual SS models. Of note, Edmunds reports that the Camaro SS lapped Germany’s Nürburgring in 8 minutes 20 seconds. While not as blistering as the Corvette ZR1’s 7:26.4 second lap, it still puts the Camaro in some pretty decent company, such as the E46 BMW M3. However, the Camaro SS’ little brother — the 2008 Cobalt SS — made its way around the Nürburgring in just 8:22. An RS appearance package will be available on LT and SS models, and will include HID headlamps with with integrated halo ring feature, spoiler, specific taillamps and 20-inch wheels. With four-wheel independent and StabiliTrak stability control standard, the Camaro will tip the scales at about 3,700 pounds, but is said to have a near ideal 52/48 weight distribution. Although the V6 models will do battle with low-end Mustangs and Challengers, a turbocharged four-cylinder is still not out of the question. The automaker hopes to sell as many as 100,000 units annually. Overall, the body shape looks very similar to the Camaro Concept. GM has added a B-pillar to the Camaro’s body structure for added strength. Otherwise, the car is virtually unchanged from the concept, as GM has promised. Availability Circle Monday, February 16, 2009 on your calendar as the date the new 2010 Camaros will start heading down the production line at the Oshawa plant in Ontario. In actuality, this means it will more than likely be mid-March before you’ll be able to put your hands on one at a dealership. That puts Camaro availability about a year behind that of its nearest rival, the Dodge Challenger. A few GM higher ups have stated that the General will start making Camaros in late 2008. That’s true, but, a little misleading. Salable, pilot build, Camaros will be the cars rolling down the line in late 2008. This run of cars will be given to engineers, execs and managers. For those seeking a convertible Camaro, you’ll have to wait until Monday, December 7, 2009 — a little bit late for the 2009 convertible season in northern climates. Look for them to start showing up at dealers in late December or early January depending on where you are in the United States. GM executives have publicly said Chevy expects to sell over 100,000 Camaros per year with pricing for the V6 model starting in the $20,000 range.

Didn't they say they needed to sell 160,000 a year to make a business case for it? Well I can see the Camaro selling well at first, but with gas at $4.30+ I don't exactly seeing it achieving those numbers. Maybe if gas was still at the $3.15 range... What do you guys think? Will gas prices make it go the way of the Gen 4? If Gen 5 fails, then I don't see it ever coming back.

What a B.S. article!

I never said it didn't look good, it's just a tired design, imo. I want to see something that looks different not a C6.5. This does not mean it has to radically change the shape to look like an S7. And I definitely think retro would be a bad mistake for the 'Vette.

Too bad it can't beat the Gt-R. Or can it? I dunno... The Gt-R already went around the ring in 7 minutes, 29 seconds.

That sounds like a personal problem but considering the strike cost them 100,000 sales(as stated in their press release) and cost them money, I wouldn't be laughing. Well not if I were GM anyway.

Whatever, they're only so far ahead, because of the strike.

The problem is that the C6 is already boring. The C4 was a lot different from the C3 and it had a nice freshness to it. Then we had the C5. It looked good, but was only a nice version of a bland wedge design in which a same year Firebird looked better(referring to the C4). The C6 was a C5 with exposed headlights and C3 design cues. It's stale already. If the C7 is just a C6 with minor details changed(like on the C5 from the C4) it'll just be even more stale.

The difference between the 911 and Corvette is Porsche has many models so they can have on model that looks the same till the end of time. The Corvette is a different story. It's a single model with trim levels. You can keep the RWD, V8-powered, front-engined, 2-seater, long-hood, and hatchback rear deck and STILL make a revolutionary design. It doesn't have to change shape to do that.

I don't see what's so bad about the design. It looks pretty much JUST like it always has. I agree that the Vent is "meh", but that's all. Still is sexy.

The mentioning of whether or not it has a manual or not is irrelevant. It is strictly talking about fuel mileage. I guess Honda can't advertise, "Most fuel efficient maker in America". Now lets have Chevy advertise some of that, huh?

Too bland? Have you seen the LaCrosse it's replacing? It's WAAAYYYY more bland than this. I wouldn't consider this bland at all though. If it didn't have the sweep line, then yes.