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Yeah, from the autoshow, I was absolutely in awe how the Malibu interior - in terms of the the touch points that really matter - very well done - better than many luxury cars. Were it so easy for some luxury cars (I'm looking at you Mercedes CLA). Except the lower model Malibu with fabric dash top. I'm okay with that, but the brown really lifts up the interior, and the mass of black and gray - like other lower trim sedans aren't that eye-catching. The Volt's peanut butter scheme is very welcoming. Some Canadian dude drove it recently, and made me feel very jelly. The Cruze I sat in felt like a cheaper car, but it's probably going to remain very well equipped in terms of features and entry price, so I was satisfied... but not really engaged like a Mazda 3 or Golf interior or slightly pleased like in the Ford Focus. I don't think many people have seen the Cruze without the RS package on the Premier model. Without the RS package the Cruze looks much less substantial. I saw both close to each other, and really the transformation one trim package makes is crazy. Incidentally - the amount of displacement of soft touch material - as in how squishy the armrests and dash top are, are very similar in the Fusion and Malibu. I like the Malibu's door armrest more, but the Fusion's dash (below Platinum) is fully padded all from the globebox to the cowl, and I like the console armrest more too. I don't really care about the dash being nicer than the armrest, but anyways the Platinum was something way beyond my expectations for a midsize sedan at any price. I have not been in a non leather BU yet but was warned about the cloth. I expect that most Cruze will get the RS package but they still should do better on the low level models. The touch points were what I noticed on the BU. You can see how they really did work at it. What caught me was the First BU I saw. It was $28K and had leather and was a very pleasent interior for under $30K. That is not easy to do in many cars anymore with leather. The BU can get to $38k fast but you still can get a sub 30K car .

I looked at the Cruze and was not really impressed with the looks in person. That is rare today. I was not able to get inside. I did get into a Volt and was shocked how nice the upgraded trim was for that car. It had a gray with brown seats and was very comfortable and anything but plastic cheap feeling. It felt like a SS2 Camaro interior. If they offer this in the Cruze they will be fine. The new Bu interior is great in Premium and even non premium with leather it is a pleasant place to be.

Yes if the sales are good here the sales in China are doing so well they really can not spare more to export here. Until the new Nox and Terrain arrive there is no place to build these yet.

Yes they are very solid. I had a buddy work for a salvage company and he would send me crash photos and it is very impressive how well they hold up. You really can feel the stiffness of the platform. The next one will be stiffer but the less weight will improve so many things. More power only helps in one area. Less mass improves braking and handling in ways you can not do any other way.

I was able to get the saturation sheets from the Delta brand manager a while back for several of the SS years. I had all the break downs on colors and options. I moved several years ago and they are all packed away yet. At first it was like 50/50 and then it moved more auto as time went on. I think it was just that so many people can's drive a stick. Mine was a daily driver the first couple years and I was not going to shift every day. I love it on weekends but tired coming home from works I could care less. Also I hate cable shifted FWD sifters when they get old as they get all the more rubbery. Finally if I had to replace the clutch this was one I can not do at home like my older cars.

I would have to look it up but about 2/3 were auto. At first the Manuals were king but the GM tune made them put out the same power as the Manuals with the tune. The only negative on the auto is you could not get the Brembo and LSD package but the brakes really were not all that better since it was just the front. The LSD would be nice. The Auto on the other hand has less issues. I have seen linkage issue, Clutch issues and housing cracking issues. Also some tune issues like my buddies likes to rev between gears they cannot resolve. So there is good and bad to both. It is just a shame the six speeds did not fit as the added strength could let them open the engine up more. The same tune on the Solstice manual has 340 FT LBS. The HHR SS is a crazy car. I never liked the HHR, never wanted a wagon, never wanted a Turbo 4 and hate FWD but I love this little car. It is such a well tuned car and is just a blast to drive. Also I love the look on the face of guys in Mustangs when you keep right with them. The most annoying thing is just getting traction. The front wheels like to unload and you can spin the tires at some insane speeds. It is just sad my 4 cylinder is faster than any of the big blocks I owned over the years that were stock. Your buddy has 260 HP even with the intake unless he has taken the learn feature off the computer. It will boost the power for a short while but then it learns back. Tunes like the GM tune will remove the learn and KNN claims like 5-6 HP I think.

I usually do in anything that isn't a 3.6 V6 SUV. I do really well in their Turbo-4s. I haven't driven a 2.5 recently enough to remember. The 3.6 in sedans gets me just EPA. The Chryslers with a Pentastar I will beat EPA easily. I have two HV V6 a 3.6 Bu and a 3.0 Terrain. The Terrain hits the GM EPA number or does one better. The BU even driven hard in winter gets 23 city and summer 25. Highway I can get 30-32. The HHR 2.0 Turbo gets 25 and 32 even with the tune and driven hard. The EPA numbers were something like 18 and 24. I never came close to that. My 3800SC cars all hit the numbers spot on. GM has done a lot with their tuning with the cam, gearing and transmissions. How they ever got the 4 in the Nox and Terrain to run as well as it did is proof. It is way under powered for what the mass was but it still drove well. One thing to keep in mind is the Lambda models are about as old as you can get at GM anymore and the mass is really a problem. GM just in the last 5 years has come a long way. The new BU, Camaro and new CT6 show just what they can do. For this kind of weight loss sit takes a lot of detailed engineering and GM has finally had the money to do this. To be honest the 300 pound loss in the Malibu is on the scale of like adding 100 HP to the engine as it is that big of a deal. It will be interesting to see how long it takes the others like Ford to try to match that. They went Aluminum in the trucks and really just got caught up with Chevy. The HHR SS 5spd is rated 21/29. The auto is 19/28... FYI...lol What ever it has been years since I looked at the window sticker. But even the simple minded got the point I get much more than the 19 and 28 LOL! It is the one engine that easily beats the numbers. Also I am not the only one as we have had 3 of us at work here with the same vehicle with the same results. Note also the GM tune added one MPG along with added torque and MPF. The GM engineer told me it was the added low end torque as it get me up to speed and off the throttle sooner. DI cuts off when not on throttle. The way to boost MPG in DI is to keep the car in gear but keep off the throttle as much as you can on done hill grades. Old port injection always added some fuel but DI at least in GM cars shuts off. Or so as the GM engineer claims.

I saw one of these on Monday. The size was smaller over all but the usable interior was not much different than my Terrain. It is spot on in size for the segment it is in. I just do not understand how pricing will work with the GMC right there in the same show room. I am sure the GMC will see a price cut like the Acadia but then again that also may be why GM only plans to sell 40K units.

I usually do in anything that isn't a 3.6 V6 SUV. I do really well in their Turbo-4s. I haven't driven a 2.5 recently enough to remember. The 3.6 in sedans gets me just EPA. The Chryslers with a Pentastar I will beat EPA easily. I have two HV V6 a 3.6 Bu and a 3.0 Terrain. The Terrain hits the GM EPA number or does one better. The BU even driven hard in winter gets 23 city and summer 25. Highway I can get 30-32. The HHR 2.0 Turbo gets 25 and 32 even with the tune and driven hard. The EPA numbers were something like 18 and 24. I never came close to that. My 3800SC cars all hit the numbers spot on. GM has done a lot with their tuning with the cam, gearing and transmissions. How they ever got the 4 in the Nox and Terrain to run as well as it did is proof. It is way under powered for what the mass was but it still drove well. One thing to keep in mind is the Lambda models are about as old as you can get at GM anymore and the mass is really a problem. GM just in the last 5 years has come a long way. The new BU, Camaro and new CT6 show just what they can do. For this kind of weight loss sit takes a lot of detailed engineering and GM has finally had the money to do this. To be honest the 300 pound loss in the Malibu is on the scale of like adding 100 HP to the engine as it is that big of a deal. It will be interesting to see how long it takes the others like Ford to try to match that. They went Aluminum in the trucks and really just got caught up with Chevy.

Let them uncover it. I was not impressed with the Lacrosse till I saw it in person. It is much better in person.

That is hard to do in most GM cars anymore. I generally meet and more often beat the numbers. The rise of regulations is not weakness. It is the way it goes with big government. Corporations like people really are getting less say about the rules and laws anymore as the lobbyist and special interest have take control of both sides of conservative and liberal politics. While higher MPG is done in the name of a Green future much of the Green regulations are done with a lot of money being paid by people who are making a lot of money from it. While some of these folks may be doing it for a noble cause many are just in it for the money. I may not always agree with them but they have a right to push their products too. I just do not agree that they should be hiding their profits behind their save the environment preaching. If you want to do it be honest and say you are making a buck from it or donate all the profits back into the cause.

Well this deal is like the show I watched last night on the 787. Boeing wanted to make a plane that was smaller and faster to fly direct like many airlines want to do today. Customers love fast and they love direct. The problem is even with technology to do this available the cost of fuel went up in little over 10 years ago and stopped the program. Airlines at this point were ok with slower but they still wanted the composite plane fuselage and other technology advances to where they could keep cost down on fuel and still fly direct overseas. Technology and cost like above is always a compromise. While we are capable of many things you need to base it to the point where the average American can still afford it. Passing laws forcing to remove some options in making power may advance the programs but it also has driven up cost to the consumer. Not everyone wants to pay for it in this way. If you could work to merge this in over a period of time you could reduce cost and also still get ahead at a reasonable pace. Just banning Coal or even like some have wanted ICE engines will be disruptive and expensive. Right now there is a big fight between groups supporting different plans on how we should advance. There is infighting on things from whole systems to what kind of universal plug for an EV car should be used. Why are they fighting? Because many people are invested and could stand to make or lose billions on the choices offered. The fact is not all have our good in mind with these changes many are just motivated by profit and want to force their invested versions through before someone else comes up with something better. That is just part of the competition here and the ugly side of it. The key will be to get some legitimate political people that can put in plans that will do a balanced and timed approach in putting in the technology where it will not bankrupt the average consumer.

And see the green zealots need to respect this as most of us are not saying we want to kill a polar bear by stranding it on a Ice Flow [one of their greatest lies as they spend most of their time swimming. Just not everyone is fully bought in on all that is claimed nor is the technology there to work for everyone as it still has a ways to go yet. This has been my point all along as EV cars will need to a point that they do not require a life style adjustment for most people to accept them. Longer ranges and faster charging will resolve most of that but we are not there yet. Give people a EV that will charge fully in the time it takes to fill a tank of gas and the ability to charge just about anywhere and more people will buy in. Till then it will take a mix of technologies to fit all the needs and want. There is no wrong cars but you still need to be able to buy what you want and need. As for the next election. I really do not expect much to change on CAFE as even the Conservatives are against rolling it back at this point. We can hope but. As for Hillary. She is for raising it if she is not indited first. The key here is to respect all technologies as we will have them all for a good while as no single one will replace the others. It will remain a little of this and little of that and a little of both.

Well you need to be fair here on the Camaro. We made a point to get in nearly every coupe at the show and found one thing. If you had the seat far enough up to get in back the driver was uncomfortable. Note I am only 5/11-6 FT. We got in the Dodge, the ATS, Mustang, and a host of Asian Coupes and and petty much all suffered rear seats that did not lend itself to being used. I have been in a back of a fifth gen with 6ft 4" buddy up front and neither of us had an issue. It was tight but not as bad as any coupe sampled today. Now here is the real issue. Nearly all cars had head room issue. I had my head hitting the rood in nearly all. At least in most including the Camaro the padded head liner was there but in the Mustang it was hitting the glass. This is why people do not buy coupes anymore as it is nearly the commitment you make when you buy a sports car 2 seater. As for your down size bitch. Now you need to clarify that GM down sized at a time where all models went down in size and styling as simply badge engineering. This was a dark time for the GM design and there were reasons the cars came out homely. Yest it was the styling not the size that killed sales not to mention the quality issues. Today they have moved two models down in size but also in price. And why pray tell did they do that because we will see more models fill in the gap they left so GM better matches up with the models they have in place of being the odd one out. Also the new Buick envision while smaller looked to have as much or more usable interior room as my Terrain that is poorly packaged. This should really make the new Nox and Terrain a hit. If some one wants something larger the new Acadia and the coming larger model should resolve any needs imaginable. This is far from what happened in the 80's, I think some people outsmart themselves thinking they know what is wrong but they fail to use all the evidence that is available to give a clearer picture of what happened and what is going on. The real reality will smack home soon as all MFG will have to down size in all models to meet regulations or they will have to add more higher priced hybrid systems to meet coming regulations in many models. GM is in a good spot right now as they are leading on the lowering of weight as this will be the new war the MFG will fight. More power is not where it is at but less mass is the new game in town. The lossing of 300-700 pounds we have seen is tough to do with out going all aluminum etc. They still have that card to play yet too so GM is doing well in this aspect. As for the styling you may not like the new Acadia but it was drawing a large crowd with many positive remarks. Note too the XT5 also looks good and would never be mistaken for being on the same platform by the average customer. The new Acadia is a modern look that to be honest has some traits of the Ford Explorer and Grand Cheerokee but with a much more rakes wind shield and flow to the nose. It really looked much more upscale. They had an old Acadia there and it made it look as old as it was. The Terrain Denali was there and God they killed it. The added trim really does not work well and it just looked like a real mess in Denali trim. I offered I would not trade my SLT2 for one. I hope this is fixed with the new model. The present one left me with a taste of vomit in my mouth. I expect the new Canyon based SUV when it arrives will challenge the Cherokee. The quality issues and the issues with the future of FCA are not going to help Jeep much till it gets sorted out. The quality issues are now coming to roost even more with front suspension and steering rack issued on models with only 50K miles. We will see more on this later. It is a shame as they may have a winner but Fiat cost cutting my damage them in long run. FYI have you even seen a new Acadia let alone even sat in one? FYI the third row even sits an adult. If you want to hate that is fine but at least come up with something a little more legit.

Not at all as it was a very nice looking car. It was Impala size but had much more upgraded details. As for a Hyundai No mistaking anything from GM for that mess. Looked at an Optima and for the same price the new Bu has it beat. The New Buick convertible was nice but kinda felt as old as it really is. Nice details but the dash looked like it was 5 years or more old. Which it is. The new Regal can not come soon enough.

Having seen it today I believe the truck SUV look of the new model will do more to win sales than anything. The interior should be better and the seat folding looked like it was more efficient. As for the weight loss it will help in MPG but the fact is a non turbo 3.6 is an RPM engine and it will take RPM to get to the power band as it does not start till 3000 RPM. Now with that said RPM in a multi valve engine can not be judge the same as a SBC. The air flow and the valve timing need the RPM and even at the higher speed they can be more efficient due to air flow. The real problem is so many people went from say a Tahoe to the 3.6 and no one told them you have to rev these engines to get into the power band as they are not the same engine as the LS. You have to treat these much different. Also anymore with the DI I think you need to run them harder to keep the carbon build up down. I have noted the harder you drive these the less issue carbon appears to be. Not sure if that is true but the vehicles putted around town have issues more often than someone who revs it out often. The valve overlap is to push fuel into the intake just a fraction of a second and I wonder if that is what is going on.

If we live in an alternate reality, then it is the one that also is creating the bulk of this countries new wealth and pushing the future forward. Live in the past if you want Ocn, but the fact is, 15-20 years from now, your best truck could be an EV where you swap out Battery Cells to fuel it. After all, once the industry standardizes on battery cells, It could be as simple as driving on your road trip, pull in to a Cell Station and for a fee they swap out the cell pack and your recharged and full in minutes and on your way. Why fear the future when there is so many exciting things to enjoy. Remember stagnation is the death of creation and life. You need to ask yourself, are you really happy staying static or are you embracing all you can be with learning, changing and enjoying life? We need to enjoy and take care of our history, current and future. Just never stop learning, otherwise you can become stone. There is two ways to look at this. You may be creating new wealth but you also are costing the consumer a ton more money to do things that were so simple and cheap before. You keep pushing cell swaps? You do realize that Elon even gave up on this as it is not practical or as easy as some would like to make it out as. To me it is like where you trade in your good Propane tank and get a crummy one back. As for the future you need to use care and judgment in doing so as some folks like the Oil Lobbyist are also doing the same for some of the green companies all in the name of profits. In other words the same lies that are being told on the oil side are also being told on the other side. The path to the future is incorporating new technologies but not forcing them down on everyone at much higher cost and the change of life style be required. I think we all have experienced the good like the LED TV's and better computers but we also have had to deal with more efficient water heaters that work more poorly and cost much more to replace, Also we have washing machines that are more efficient but you have to do some loads twice to get them clean. Also how man here have been forced to use a new efficient John Wayne Toilet as a replacement? You know the one that won't take $hit off anyone unless you flush it 2 times. The future and better more efficient products are fine but they must be as good or better than what they replace to sell everyone. Some folks are all in to save the planet but most are just wanting to get by in life and not have to deal with replacement products that often are more efficient because they do not work as well. Besides how efficient is doing two loads of laundry when the inefficient ones would do it in one. If you want people to buy in make it better than it was and and those who are not in the the Green thing will be fine with the changes. Even the added cost will be fine if they can get a product that really works as well of better. Give them a poorer product and charge more for it and they will not buy into any of this. Also I worry about the smart products. How long till Uncle Sam starts to limit or control the amount of Electricity you can use. There are many who want to pass laws where they can monitor you and limit your usage even if you are paying for it. Where does the line stop? If you want the heat at 77 degrees then you should have it. If you want the AC at 65 then that is your choice. We already see where people are now forced to use less water because of low flow toilets that do not work well and shower heads that just do not rinse. There was even a Seinfeld episode on that one. I see people going around salvaging old toilets to get the old style today. The next big beef will be the smaller and smaller cars. We are not at the end of the rope now nor will we be anytime soon so we have time to work these things in and to better develop them before they are forced on the people. America is made up of mostly people that hold the you can't tell me what to do attitude and they will revolt over these things if force fed. To bring these changes in you would want to do it in small steps and over time. Just keep in mind that a lot of people are pushing the green agenda not because they are out to save the planet but because they can make a ton of money off new legislation. It is true we should clean things up and try to be more efficient. Few people have a beef with that. But the part that is not truthful is this is not something that has to be done in 5 years. The best way to deceive people is to take a truth and then lie. Both side are doing it so I am fair on this as neither are saints. The truth is there is a high price to pay to make all the changes that some are wanting in a short time. This will hurt the pockets of many of the people that can not afford to pay more. Just look at the cutting of coal plants with no real affordable replacement. We already are now seeing the utilities wanting to jack the rates to pay for the higher cost replacements. This is not on the backs of the companies bu the consumers. No one has to look farther than the added cost on a car today to how much all this is costing the consumer. This is a economy killer if all done at once. For sure some will make money in the Green market but look a the common customer to pay for it all. The money has to come from someones pockets. The best way to a clean environment is to kill of industry. Just ask Youngstown as it has never been cleaner. I respect your view and agree on what we should be working for but not on the time table and cost you want to see it done. There is a little right in what we both say here and that is what needs to be worked out. This is not a black and white issue the real answer is in the middle. As it is now California has suffered terribly under eviro regulations. They have lost so much industry and so much has moved from the state. Regulation and taxation is no way to grow an Economy. When the state goes bankrupt it will be then put on the backs of those of us in the fly over states that work in moderation because we are not the ones who went broke. It is a matter of time before California goes broke. One major earthquake will make a Hurricane look like a breeze as they can not afford to rebuild.

I saw an Acadia today and it should do well. It is more like a SUV vs, mini van looking. The seating is generous but more conventional. It should better compete head to head with other models out there. Cargo area is the area that took the greatest hit but nothing that can not be worked around and not lacking to most others in class. If they tried to sell this at the same price I could see issues but with the price cut this has opened the door to whole new group of buyers and I suspect the old buyers will have a new model soon to pick up where the Old Acadia left off. I also saw the Buick Envision. While small on the outside it looks to have nearly the same usable room inside as my Terrain. It should do well in the same size with the Terrain and Nox.

I saw the Lacrosse today and I expect this to be a cheaper smaller version. I was surprised as I am not a Lacrosse fan but it really is a nice car. I would look for AWD and better trim. I would suspect a Turbo 2.0 will be more common in this model and better magnetic suspension. GM needs about only 25 more HP as most of these cars will have to walk it back in the near future to hit the MPG marks or raise the price to limit volumes.

We are well aware of the west coast and where they are with infrastructure. The issue is the states touching the water on the west coast are much different than most other states. People here are just no where as interested in alternative powered cars. It is growing but at a much slower rate and this will slow infrastructure too. This is why Chevy is introducing the Volt on the west coast and I would assume the Bolt there first. I am not going to say anyone is right or wrong here but there is a difference in priorities and that is why all forms of power will be used. One must also remember We are no were as green centric here in many other states. The problem lies is that while California is mostly one big city from TJ to Santa Barbra the rest of the country is pretty much open territory. I am sure you have flown over the country and noted there is just a hell of a lot of nothing in between. Now few people are going to buy EV cars way out in no where and few people are going to install chargers in places where there are no cars. While EV may gain traction in the tree hugging west the rest will take up to it at a much slower pace and will need even more advancement of faster charging and longer range. The fact is EV cars are just not yet suited for everyone lifestyle at this point. Will we get there at some point? I expect we will but it will be a while longer. Then you have places like TX and OK with a lot of oil and many people working in the oil business that drive trucks and know we are not going to run out of oil in their life time nor do they have Emissions issues held in by mountain ranges. To them if its not broke why fix it. So while the west coast see's it differently other areas in like have different priorities, needs and other views. The EV is not a one vehicle fits all yet and may not be with some areas and segments. In fact I can see EV cars not doing well in cold climates. It is tough on gas as it is but Electric is tough to do in the cold. More work for more power in places like Alaska where nothing is close and it is colder than hell most of the years. Same for many parts of Canada. Even here in the mid west you see few EV cars and even less in the winter. Speaking of odd things. One area not considered is weight. It is now coming to the attention of many that the Tesla X is too heavy for the Brooklyn Bridge. Many SUV models are but at approaching 6000 pounds there are many bridges in this country out in the country that can not support this. Not a big deal but a deal all the same. Other odd things will crop up over time. Right now the goal should be for slow steady growth and in the end we will have a mix of many different options. The only way to kill of the ICE is to make a law against it and that would be a while as many in these fly over states would never support anyone that would push that.

One just needs to put this into perspective. GM stired the water with the EV1. This pushed Toyota to do the Prius and then we got the Volt and Leaf. These cars created a market where none existed before to get people to invest in R&D then production of better motors, batteries and other things to help spur the advancement of the EV car. Tesla really did not break any major technical grounds but what they did was show there was a market for a much more expensive car that no one though would ever sell. They also made a EV that did not look like a Science experiment. Also all the publicity has portrayed the EV in a good light. That is why even if you hate Tesla you need to wish them well as if they stumble all EV models stumble. But the trick will be to make a affordable car that will sell in volumes that will spur more development and better chances at making money. That is the moon shot here. GM is taking it in steps and the Bolt is just the next step. I expect a sedan from Cadillac at some point and all the other MFG's will put their hand in this game. Now I know we made a big gain in the last 15 years but going from near nothing to where we are was the easy part now it will take time and more money and discoveries to advance into new areas for bigger gains. We will continue to see the small gains till the break through come and they could easily come as soon as next year or 10 years. You can not put a scheduled on this. As the improvements come so will lower prices and longer ranges. They will increase in volumes and soak up a large share of the market. I do not see the ICE vanishing anytime soon but there will be options and steady growth in the EV segment. Much of this will be due to the fact infrastructure is way behind and it will take longer for it to catch up than the advancement of the cars. Things like people living in cities parking on the street. How are you going to pay for a charge? and other things that still need to be worked out will be at time tougher to solve than other issues. This is why companies will continue to work on many options like Hydrogen, EV, hybrid, ICE and Diesel to fill the needs of the market. It is just not a one thing fits all market. The EV will also prove to be more like Cell Phones as once they are a little outdated people will not want them. Programs to deal with this like Cell Phone buy outs etc will have to be put in place. People will treat them like electronics as they will want the latest and the best. Lets face it old gas cars pretty much all operate like they have for years so while you may upgrade with better options you still have about the same power and MPG. EV models will gain in range, power and other features as they advance so most people who want them will go to the latest in most cases. There is going to be a lot of changes in many areas. We here mostly focus on the car but the way we buy and sell cars will change. The way we travel may change for some people as you will have to plan your life a little different to own a EV. People used to just putting in a couple bucks of gas will have to make a better effort to plug in as running out of electric is not like walking with a can to get a gallon. I never understood that one. For sure the future will be interesting.

While true they all have their fan boys the pool of each tend to be more diluted due to the larger the size. With Tesla and the new technology that lends it self to controversy and it tends to be a smaller group that tends to be more polarized or defensive. I just saw a whole week of people attacking Stewart Haas Racing because they were offered a large sum to go to Ford. Some of these people were willing to walk off a cliff over it because they felt Tony betrayed them?? I know they are out there and they have no clue this was just a business decision. But on the other hand with Tesla Passions run deep and with some they run off the rails at times. While I am not a Musk fan I do hope Tesla survives as the PR fall out of a failure would do a lot of damage to all EV cars no matter the make. The fact is both polarized ends of the EV debate need to understand this is a long term slow growth segment as there is still much to learn and much to invest in to continue the progress. With out the cars we have now no one would be investing but today with models out there investment has increased. The key to the EV movement is not to over sell it as it leaves the segment vulnerable. The second key it not to undersell it as there is still ground to be gained here and a segment that will continue to get better. This is simply a big picture deal and some on both sides hold a frail grasp.

Caddy I own a 3.0 Terrain and a 2.0 HHR SS. The HHR is for sure the better power of the two and the better MPG. The Weight difference is about 600 pounds but the MPG difference is about 7 MPG better in the HHR. I never understood the MPG ratings for the HHR SS as it was way under what reality is I get 25 City and 32 Highway and that is even with the GM Performance upgrade to 290 HP 315 FT LBS. The Terrain is about 18-19 City and 24 Highway. The 3.6 just has a little better MPG and Power but not enough to make it worth trading in for the near same identical model. Also the Nox platform is very old as it underpinned the original and even an Opel before that. Hence why it is so heavy and the poor packaging inside for the space given. It was good when it came out but this is where the age is showing. The next model I expect a major weight loss and only 4 cylinders since it is moving down in size. I suspect the price will drop too just as the GMC Acadia did. Everything is sliding down as I expect a new RWD/AWD mid size to appear between the Acadia and the Yukon. As for Amy this is just a troll that really has nothing here to offer in reality. Some people screw up because they make a foolish purchase or some just like to poke around to stir up trouble. What is funny is how many of these can be paid people from automakers too. Anyways our 2012 is still going strong and we will keep it we close in on around 100K miles and trade up to a newer model. That is about 8-10 years and we normally get good resale and apply it to the new model. I really did not want it but the wife did and I have to say I really have come to appreciate it. There are a couple things I would change but no deal breakers. To get a similar sized vehicle we may have to go to the Acadia next time. My problem is I am not sure what I want next for a new car. I would love to have a Canyon but I still want something sporty to drive. I would love a new ZQ8 Canyon but I have not seen anything about them looking into this.

I hear it can handle that biohazard gas just fine for the Model X. But with the Fear that some have shown here about EVs, I do not think their biohazard filter can handle irrational brain waves. I though if you buy a Tesla your $hit does not stink? At least that is how some of the zealots come across. I heard the car can cure cancer too? It evidently handles Bull $hit well as so many fans are professional slingers of it.

That is what I clearly posted. The odds are there will be a model between that may be RWD. There could even be a larger model on the same platform. The bottom line is we have yet to see all the new SUV models to come.