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  1. Right now the dollar is better but that is not always a given. No matter who funds the social programs the demands of the union are the issue here. They want to dictate to GM as the UAW used to do. The CAW needs to learn they need GM more than GM needs them. As for Canada. I have a couple Pontiac buddies from the Taranto area. They are very unhappy with the way things are going there. the immigration issues are taxing the healthcare systems that can not handle much more than what they have. They said the cost of living and housing is off the charts and the new Prime Minister is just going to pile on more. we spoke about the Union up there and they both said that they have to learn they no longer hold the trump (not the Don)card on GM as in the past. What gets lost on us in America is we tend to think of Canada as a large country. Well they are by land mass but many of our states and even a few of our cities hold more people than all of Canada. Things are different there but yet the advantage Oshawa used to hold is no longer and the CAW is burning their bridges when they try to play hardball. If you were GM and had a plant in the states with a UAW union that is willing to work with you or you have a hostile CAW union making demands who would you want to cultivate a relationship with. To be honest I think the stake the UAW owns in GM is making them see things differently. While they do not hold control they do hold the ability to help keep GM profitable and if they do they will benefit from it. In a way its like Employee owned or profit sharing. If they want their stock to remain high then work with GM not bleed them dry. The UAW is treating GM more like an Investor now. How long will this last I am not sure but for now both sides are winning.
  2. Sometimes the moth closest to the flame is the one that dies as he may not see the big picture but he is the one that feels the effects. With the public demands we have seen and the private ones we have not seen GM nor anyone would like that kind of a deal. If they would get a better deal they would stay if they continue to get major demands from the union that are not like what they get else where they will be gone. Nothing personal here it is just simple business. We saw it here with the tire factories where the URW would not work with the companies when the MFG's offered new plants. The one major stumbling block was for them to work 8 hours for 8 hours pay. It had been set up in the depression to work 6 hours for 8 hours pay to help employ one more shift. In the 70's the companies wanted 3 shifts at 8 hours and it was rejected along with other demands given them,. Today the plants went south and either have more competitive unions or no union. Today we have only a couple corporate offices and R&D facilities. This is what is going on with automakers today as they can build cars anywhere they like and jobs are shopped to locals. Winners generally offer the best union package. The only thing fleet sales have done is cust back on volume and made it to where a larger plant like Oshawa is no longer needed as the volume can be satisfied anywhere. Also add in the value of the dollar and other things going on. The social Canadian government has not help draw in many companies in either.
  3. I would temper the Avista thoughts. Unless GM has lied there is no time to get an Avista done in that short of a time. Remember it was only a styling concept an no engineering was done to it. The present show car just drives from the truck to the turn table. No interior was done either. It was printed. Also GM has not made the Alpha RHD yet. Not even the Cadillac. That would take a 2nd gen Alpha that is in the works and not expected till about 2020. I know more is going on here but some things are clear what it's not.
  4. Times have changes and Unions can no longer dictate what they want. The CAW needs to learn what most of the UAW locals have learned. Today GM has more plants and capacity than they need. The locals that are thriving have learned to work with GM and make a plant profitable and competitive. They make deals that are beneficial to both sides. Places like Lordstown were a steaming heap of non competitiveness. GM was on the way to closing them down. But the local there has learned to work with the new GM and they have been rewarded with good product and much in overtime. GM is making money and the UAW workers are making money. We see the same in Kansas and most Michigan plants. So far this is working well with balance. The CAW at Oshawa has been hostile and demanding and that does not play anymore. GM has options and choices that do not have to include Mexico anymore. Before GM had few options with the unions and were forced into many bad deals and I see them protecting themselves from this. Some folks need to still get it thought their heads that it takes a good relationship on both sides to make this work. MFG are not endless pits of money that can be abused or we will end up like 2008 but eve much faster. The truth is companies are here to make money and produce income to share holders. Their primary purpose is not just to provide jobs. Harsh sounding but that is how life is. As in nature a salmon must die to support a Bear. But in this case things can be worked out to where very one benefits if both sides are smart. As it is Oshawa got a big head as they had good ratings in quality and have a large facility but that matters little in today's markets where pretty much any plant can match their quality and smaller plants can beat their efficiency.
  5. Kitchen ware is 2 isles over /aisles ...and now we're tit-for-tat on post oopsies. But the Camaro is still kicking the crap outta he Shelby, regardless of variant. Seriously-the ZL1 is supposed to be the variant that ISN'T the hardcore trackrat. And it is STILL projected to outgun the Shelby GT350 in lateral g. Oh wow I think the 1LE SS will also do it for much much less. Makes me ponder the abilities of the coming Z. It will be very track tuned and we already know it will have massive down force.
  6. 45k for a 1LE. Doesn't sound terrible. I mean in my opinion, anything over 40k is an expensive car because 2 doors and limited capability doing anything other than $h!'n and get'n but should be a great performer for the money! And, thank you! Anything over $25K is expensive anymore. If you were born earlier it would be $20 and even $10K depending on the era.
  7. Pricing and it is nice http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/08/2017-chevrolet-camaro-ss-1le-undercuts-shelby-gt350-with-6500-package-price/ Performance http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/08/2017-chevrolet-camaro-ss-1le-official-performance-specs-pin-it-quicker-than-a-gt350/ ZL1 at $62,135 http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/08/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-full-performance-specs-revealed/ Z/28 yet to come.
  8. Well the embargo is off and the 1LE package is a killer option not model for the money in LT or SS form. The ZL1 is blindingly fast and while the price is higher it gives a lot for the money.
  9. The truth is the same problem I had in the 80's then is still the same issue today. Insurance. I could not afford it then with a good driving record and today many youth market drivers can not afford Camaro insurance today. As for the C7 there is only one thing it can do better than a mid engine. You can carry ice cream in the trunk. I just got home with my car from the Pontiac Nationals and all my show gear in the truck was roasted. It is amazing how hot the back as well as the front trunk get with cooling. Note I even have a air extracting hood on the front yet it still get very warm. FYI took First in class!! They had over 600 Show Pontiac' on the grounds and they are still counting the race cars. It is always one hell of an event.
  10. Where did you come up with that one? They were not priced like "everyman's" car, that's for sure… unless you mean every man wanted one. They've long been just about in Cadillac price ranges. And the SL absolutely changed it's mission; it was a stripped down, utilitarian car with crappy build & engineering quality for decades (it also had a straight 6 in the '50s, 60s and 70s)… now it's priced tremendously higher and is a loaded up, blingy luxury car when it originally was a sports car. (The '76 SL was $20K, by '89 (13 years later) it was $64K…. but WHO CARES??) At least I understand that singular automotive models DO change over time. The Corvette is an every mans car in many ways but not in the way he put's it. #1 There are few people who do not want one. #2 the new ones are more affordable than most other sports cars. #3 they are built in volumes that make it so where you can find some example on the used market in good shape that nearly anyone can afford them. #4 they are still a car most people can work on and are supported with one of the strongest aftermarkets making them affordable to modify. #5 they have a dealer support system that is unlike any other sports car even the Miata with more dealers than any of them that can easily fix anything. Often the parts are also in stock. #6 while their prices do come down over the years they do appreciate in time no matter the year and model. Few drop to the levels of worthless because they remain a car that can be purchased with a blown engine and one that can be replace affordably. There are many SL and even Ferrari's that cost more to fix the rust or engine than they are worth. The bottom line is the Corvette formula while more expensive today still holds to the true aspects of a car that most people can still own in some form or have a realistic dream to own. Too many even the ones that can afford a Ferrari can not afford the maintenance alone. Harley has done the same thing. They are expensive today but yet most people can fine an example they can afford and most can be easily rebuilt and modified reasonably. This is why both Harley and Corvette have out lasted so many others over the years even with their past flaws. This formula worked then and it continues to work today. I see the mid engine car as the Ferrari that many of us can afford or may own if not new maybe used one day. I can't say the same about an Ferrari, Lambo etc. One may note that Mclaren has now got a lower priced model that is going to fit the affordable segment. Same for the new NSX. These cars are priced much lower and I expect Chevy to take the price even lower. $170K is realistic for base price and would be a lot of car for the money. In time once they go to a lower priced model to replace the C7 this will rattle the rest of the market. Why will GM do it? Because they can with the Corvette. Another thing too is if not for the Corvette Cadillac would never have enough volume to make a business case. Even if they did it would last maybe 3 years on its own losing money. If not for a Corvette version there would be no Corvette. Much like if there was No Lambo at VW there would likely be no R8. While his definition is not accurate the sentiment is true.
  11. Does a mid engine car need to be expensive? No! The only reason they are expensive is because they are built by companies that do not mass produce them in the first place. To earn a higher price they add many more expensive systems and materials that GM does not have to include if they are to mass produce them. Second you can move forward in the market or you can remain stagnate and let the Corvette rot like it did in the late 70's. As for Benz they took a different approach. They did not keep the same car they just made a different one. None of their true performance car lasted a decade. So unless Chevy wants to make a new car that would make no sense they need to change the one they have. The truth is you have an iconic name and you need to use it. You can make the Corvette in several versions and do just fine. What you will get is a car that will have much more to offer in several models. Even the Mid engine model will be sold in time in a wide price range including one nearing $70K I would be shocked even if the top model cleared $250K in a all Carbon tub. Hmm Omega SUV above Escalade that is high performance. Who said we will not see this. Who said the Escalade is top dog? There is so much unknown about Cadillac's future and it would be ignorant to count anything out at this point. As for the SL and adding other cars why does Benz do this? Where in the hell else will they sell them? GM has more than one auto brand name and one that owns the Corvette literally and figuratively. GM has options. Their option is to let the Corvette have what it has been destine to have for decades at a price range not far from what we have already. And at some point when Cadillac is ready they can take it to levels Chevy will not tread.
  12. You are now taking things out of context to support your argument. First the past is just that the past. GM was going bankrupt since the late 70's and had been mismanaged. Today we can only compare post chapter 11 here as to the rebuilding. At first they got it wrong here but now they have finally given them the money they needed and the autonomy they demanded to make the cars they need to make. It is now just a matter of time till these models will prove if they got it right under JDN. Will he turn them? Not sure but at least he had the balls to say these cars are good but not good enough. Few in GM have been able to do that. As for the Corvette you have to understand it is not just a Chevy not is it just a Corvette. The Car has become an icon and it was built, cared for and supported by Chevy. Like it or not the two are tied inside GM as much as it is with the public. Now who in the hell can say well the Corvette is as good as we will let you make it. If these guys can put together a $170K car that performs better than a $500K car is that not what Chevy is all about? Best bank for the buck and a good value? The owners have no issue going to the dealer now for their ZR1 models. The Corvette is like Harley. They are the bike of choice of the rich the middle class and of many Americans. It is a symbol of success to some. It is a symbol of America to others and it is a life style for many. It is Americas car. Few sports cars have lasted this long and few have remained relevant through tough times as well good. To put it plain and simple you are not going to separate the Corvette from Chevy nor are you going to deny them from making a better and current competitive car for the market. My question is this. Ok you give Cadillac a damn Mid Engine. What is it going to do for Cadillac? Will it be a major profit center. Not really. I am sure they may make money but not a ton. Will it change the perception of the present cars. No as they need work and they need to prove themselves in the market. Will it help Cadillac Image. Not really as so few will be sold most people will never see them. Also will Cadillac want to spend the money on a car in a race series that really does little to promote their core product Luxury cars. The cards have been dealt. Sure Cadillac would be cool to be the older of this car but the the fact is they are not ready for it. Also they are not a sports car company and never really were. These are good image builders when you have your house in order. But how in the hell can you with a strait face say this is a good idea for them when they can't even move the ATS like it should be selling and yet have so much more work to do. Now on the other hand as JDN said Cadillac heritage has been large and Luxury. They really are best represented by the large touring cars of the past many 4 door convertibles. How about a CT8 4 door Convertible with staggering presents to show what they are all about.This is where they came from and this is where their core product is going. Trying to take Cadillac into the world of sports cars is very miss-leading at this point. As for the NSX Honda had to create Acura here as no one took Honda serious. The Corvette has no limitation this way. The Corvette gets a free pass with the public because it is a Corvette and few cars earn that status. Kind of like the 911 as it really was a VW based car for years with an odd styling. But because of the icon status it holds today even the new cars are made to look like it even though it is no longer the car it once was. The simple fact is the new Corvette is not going to be 300-400K. Comments from the race team on the new Ford bear this out. Look for a car at first at $170K and then it will trickle down to cheaper models over the following few years. You need to consider this. Just because you move the engine to the back does not mean it has to be expensive. Just because others charge a lot Chevy has no reason to. The present car already is a transaxle car and this is a case of moving the cab forward of the engine. Hell Toyota and Pontiac both made mid engine cars that sold for right at $10K. As it is now the Corvette runs with cars in the $200K -400K bracket now. Moving the engine does not have to raise the price by $300K. I thinks some folks will be eating their words when time passes.
  13. Anything with a v8 will be very expensive from this point on. That is the only way they can limit sales naturally. It is just plain common sense. If you want one you can have one if you are willing to pay. This is how they will force people to smaller engines. As for prices even the Malibu will be around $40K by 2020 as prices will continue to rise. A premium now is already over $35K loaded. But look now even in the truck market a V8 truck is tough to get with many options under $50K.
  14. The money is already spent on the Corvette. The Chevy line is pretty much in place with one to two generations of product on new platfroms. The last ones like the Nox and Traverse will be replaced soon. What better way to highlight the Chevy line than put a Mid Engine Corvette into the Show Room. Cadillac is still 3 years away from JDN product. The cars they have are either not his work or old work that already needs upgraded as they did not get the attention they should have gotten. While the ATS and CTS are great cars mechanically they still need the details sweated out. The CT6 is a flag ship that is no longer a flag ship and really steps on the CTS. The lack of SUV models is costing them money and their volume. The flagship sedan is still 3 years away. A DOHC engine is still not close to being done and would be a key element to any Cadillac Halo car. Cadillac while much improved over what is and really a decent car is still not good enough. GM meddled with the cars too much and now with full autonomy Mark and JDN will get the cars they really wanted. Note they want a sports car and the mid engine platform will be used but if you bring it out now what good would it do. Your product now is still not where it needs to be but the public see you spending money on a high end car that you have earned no creed to sell yet. You build a CTS or ATS replacment that blows away any other MFG in class in all areas. You get people to buy it and then you will earn their trust to spend more money on bigger and better. As it is now you would have to have a screw loose to spend $200K or more on a Cadillac that would be a total disaster in sales and profits. Why should anyone trust you on this car when they are taking major hits in resale on their sedans? Even at Audi JDN did not do the R8 till they had their lines in order. Also they did not do it till VW bought out Lambo. As for now Let the company with over 50 plus years of selling one of the most successful sports cars in the world sell this car and let Cadillac work to regain their heritage of building the best sedans in the world and other related models to get their image to where they are seen as a creditable provider of a world class sports car. You can dress the part but if you want to be taken seriously you need to be able to do what you claim you can do. To this point Cadillac has failed at every sports car they have built. You do it again at this point you will see failure #3. Build a small BMW challanger for $60K Twin Turbo Six on a Alpha or even a Sub Alpha platform Make it with a trunk you can travel a week end on and make it a convertible. Add world class ride and handling and earn a reputation on a model at a price worth taking a chance on. I am not sure what is worse someone spending $200K on a new Cadillac sports car in the next 5 years or them even considering producing one. Well I think we are safe as JDN like the mid engine Idea but said we can not even consider it till 2025. He knows already where all the budget and man power is going and it is going to the blocks that will build Cadillac up. Image take time, effort and investment to earn. You can not just get it back on one of 500 expensive model even if it is the worlds most perfect car. Just look at Ford now. They will get some bounce from the GT but it will vanish fast in a year or so. The money would have been better off in a car at a higher volume like the original GT or even better yet the Mustang. Even calling the GT a Lincoln would have done nothing for the car or Lincoln.
  15. When I thought of Cadillac just a decade ago I would have never imagined that they would have, let alone I would buy a 650HP sedan from them capable of murdering Porsches and Vettes in almost ever dynamic. Times change.. and even though I have zero issue with Corvette having a Mid-Engine vehicle sold next to the front engine one.. I do have an issue with it coming in at a probably $100K while Cadillac gets none. Hell I don't even really have an issue with a simultaneous release. If the vehicle development is done, then that only really leaves body stamping, marketing and a few other things. If Corvette is going to be a BRAND, and sold under the Cadillac experience.... then different story. But truth is CHEVY simply does not have the capability within its own dealerships to even service the Corvette.. hell Tahoe/Subur clientel its gets in a way that is befitting one capable of buying a $60K+ weekend toy, let alone another $100K + one. Besides.. if they aren't even gonna show until 2018, there is plenty of time for Cadillac to be ready to sell them You do realize Cadillac already had a 2 seat Supercharges sports car based on a Corvette that failed miserably. How many times does a divison need to beat its head into the wall before they learn they have to earn their place with their other models before they use a expensive halo to draw attraction. You get the Rest of the line right and then you do the halo car but to do it now will only bring out the issues they already have. Let JDN get the cars he wants in place in the next 5-10 years and then you promote the other cars with a Halo. You do realize Corvette has had two cars selling for nearly $120K with no issues to this point. The ZR1 was just over if loaded and the Z06 now is around $108K with another model coming to take it to over $120 again. Chevy will sell it in numbers as they expect with no issue. Come on you really know better than that Cadillac could start today and have a car and I mean a well sorted proper car ready by 2018. Hell they are taking 5+ years alone for the cars they want now. If you bring a Mid Engine Cadillac out now it will fail as badly as the XLR and XLRv and would be found on used car lots for $35K just as the last two seat cars they did are. Cadillac would be much better off with a small Roadster GT much like the lower priced BMW models and then work their way up when they have proven they can build a proper Sports Car. To this point Cadillac has never built a proper sports car and you are now expecting people to plop down $170K for one? Chevy can get away with it as they can easily find 2000-3000 Corvette Collectors a year that will buy one just because they have all the other models. I work wit a couple now that as soon as a new model is out it is on their buy list. Ferrari see's the same thing. I have no issue with Cadillac having a mid engine but first get your act together at Cadillac and fix the other lines so there are no compromises and no it is a great car but. When you finally have vehicles that can dominate all segments then you promote it. To do it now is a waste of time and money. While Corvette will remain a part of Chevy at least in NA it is an entity to itself. People who want to see it as a Chevy see it that way but those who just want to see it as a Corvette see it that way. Just as Ferrari is its own yet it is also Fiat too. We may not see that in America but Europe they do, Same with Porsche it is it's own brand but yet it is a VW product. No MFG is a island. Even Bugatti is a VW product.
  16. First the Corvette is not a Veyron. Second it is not even a Ford GT. The Corvette even if it is to go mid engine will offer a top line but over time it will evolve to a mid engine that present owner can afford for a price adjusted price for the economic reasons. The Corvette will continue to challenge some of the greatest cars at a price more than half the others. No goofy limited cars like the GT that were built to race more than street drive and it will sell more in a couple weeks than others sell in a year or two. I think while the first model will be a world killing car it will do so at half the price of a Ford GT in a volume 4 times what the Ford is. Second it will in time bring us a cheaper model that will be fully capable and still afford able to anyone who could afford a stingray today. There has been nohting on a DOHC engine yet or even a Turbo V6 yet. Odds are it will be a higher powered version of the coming ZR1 engine that will find its way to this car that will top the Ford and others by at least 100-200 HP. The bottom line is this car will make money or GM would never approve the business case. The Corvette does not get a free pass as some like the Veyron does. This will be a Corvette and it will do as it has by setting performance and prices to its standard not the others. If people will line up to pay $400K for a Ford I am sure GM will easily fine many buyers at $170k for a car with more performance and is a better street car.
  17. That is just it you don't think! From what I have been hearing the Corvette will carry on as a C7 along with a C8. Then by 2021 we will see a change over to a cheaper Mid engine version to replace the C7 at around $70K. Now unlike the Ford GT the C8 will be built in in greater numbers and prove to be more profitable as it is not just some limited race car converted for the street. Even in low numbers the C8 will make money and then the variations with different engines and different options like AWD will come with the car. No one needs a Veryon with over 1,000 HP but people buy them. The truth is the Corvette to continue to compete with some of the best cars needs a platform that can take and really use the added power. This car is targeting Ferrari and Mclaren as these are what has been seen at the Warren proving grounds at building 54. The future is going to get more difficult to build cars like these. It is clear the Corvette will need to get lighter and more efficient. Lutz stated a hybrid system was being looked at that could move the cars MPG rating to over 50 MPG with only a $1300 battery. One must look at the C7 ,as the end of an era as they have mined as much gold as they can. With the coming regulations and coming competition the C8 is only the stepping off point to all sorts of future potential, the other factor the Corvette as it is has always been joked as being an old mans car. Yet even in my area I see expensive Ferrari and Mclarens driven by young dot com guys. Chevy wants to only improve the product while still offering what they have in the past the most bang for the buck. Also they want to reach out to other buyers as it will take all hands on deck to compete. Chevy made the same mistake remaining stagnate with the C3 for way too long. They paid a great price for that over the years. Today they have rebuilt the Corvette from the weak powered Vega steering wheeled car. We also need to keep in mind one major factor the Corvette regardless of how many they sell needs to remain profitable. The low volume models like the ZR1 make a sh&T load of money even at 1400 models. This pays the bills when the regular car like the C6 was only selling 13K units. I trust Mark and Tadge much more than some here. Both have a winning record for product and performance. I think they both will go down as some of the best guardians of the Corvette since Zora. Hmm someday because of them GM may build a Corvette Tadge?
  18. Well here is the deal. I have been saying much of this for a good while as much of this information has been right there infront of us and so many are not picking it up. Here are the clues. The Age thing is real and has been discussed and even tinkered with using a cheaper version of a roadster. This was talked about much in the last 10 years. The talk of a mid engine car was open back in 2007 but the bankruptcy killed the talk and it went back to Front engine. Lutz has now confirmed this. Talk all along was the C7 was mid engine and changed. Then Lutz came out and said he had to veto it for the time. Tadge said he could not get more out of the car unless they had a mid engine. Lutz said they added to the wheel base of the C7 to move the engine back a coupe inches to get more handling. The C8 was and has been in development right along with the C7. They slowed it down but never stopped it. Talk was they even looked into doing a car with the ability to support both mid and front engine in a modular form. It was stated about two years ago that the plan was to keep the C7 for a while and bring the C8 out as the high end car and then move to cheaper forms of it over time to replace the C7. Anyone remember the mystery new Malibu with the engine in the back seat and C7 wheels with a trans axle showing. It also sported C7 flags. It was not a photo shop it was a mule easter egg to anyone paying attention. Note it came around the time the GT was announced. Anyone remember the Holden Ute Mule. It was seen right before the GT was shown at Detroit. Nothing like this happens by accident. The recent photos we got around Le Mans time was no accident either, My friend at GM said they know where they can be seen and only go to those places when they want to be seen at Warren. There have been reports of a Corvette testing 1,000 HP but they are having trouble putting it to the ground. They will not use more than they can put down. The present car limits out around 700-750 HP and more does not make it better. As for Cadillac JDN stated clearly he holds an interest in this platform but he said they can not get to it before 2025. He has all his man power and Money focused on what Cadillac is best known for luxruy SUV, CUV and Sedans. He has a lot of work to do in getting the line to where it need to be before dumping money into a low volume low profit halo car that would attract attention to the new models. Chevy is the best known MFG of mid engine sports cars and never even made one for production yet. Word of late is they will by the time the C7 dies will have a $70K mid engine car available. By then it will be 2021 and that price jives. Also by then they could have a smaller Stingray on a new platform to take over the lower price range and share that platform for a nice little BMW GT roadster for Cadillac. JDN said more than one sports car could be looked at in the future. For Cadillac to do another big buck sports car now will only end up like the XLR and be a fair new car but a great used car with the killer value drops. My buddy loves his XLRv he bought with low miles for $35K. It would take a fool to think Cadillac should do a mid engine before they get house in order. They have a slew of SUV models as well a second gen ATS and CTS to do and a CT8. Not to mention they have a V8 and other engines also to do. When you think luxury sedans do you think Corvette? When you think great sports cars do you think Cadillac? If you do not get that ask for help. Even at Audi JDN got the line up right before he did the R8. Hell they bought Lambo before they did the R8. Let Chevy carry the load here and then they can do it as a proper Cadillac later on much more economically for the low numbers they will sell at the price it will be at. There has been many more things floating around. there was a cut up C6 in California when all this started back about 9 years ago with MFG plates. Another Easter Egg. GM and the Vette team are great at keep secrets but they love to leave clues when they want to. Lets put it this way the C7 was tested under a C6 and gave little clue. The C6 was tested under a Camaro body it gave little clue. What you see now is what they want you to see. The C7 recently seen is the last high end track model. It will have a large wing in the back like the Z 28 and it will hold 725-750 HP. It will be the send off of the ZR1 till the Mid Engine arrives. While it may be more powerful it will use ever trick to put the power to the ground. The Z06 now relies much on the computer and even now it holds as much power as it can use. The extra tricks will give the new car more down force and more grip. That is the only way it will go faster around a track. I have followed this for at least 8 years and seen much of this unfold. It has been tough as so many did not want to believe it but this stuff has been going on the whole time. Yes GM is quiet but this was not the best kept secret if you know who to listen to. As for a Corvette SUV you have to be kidding! Chevy has a line of SUV models and does not need a Corvette one. Porsche and the others need it because they do not have even a truck line let alone a SUV. They are just there for the easy money of a SUV. Chevy already has that. Now if you want to market the Corvette name then take a Tahoe and place an full time AWD system on it and a Supercharged LT engine in it. Then call it a Tahoe GS as in grand sport. Then tag it Tahoe by Corvette Engineering. Let the Corvette guys do the tuning and sell a hand full at a high price. This way you market the Corvette name but you really do not call it a Corvette. You leverage the name but you do not damage it. Work smarter not harder!
  19. Well Ford has a dilemma on their hands. They got caught short. The SS is a near match for their GT350 and I really do not think they expected that. Ford is working on a bigger and badder car but how much more will it cost? How much more will it weigh in. I know it will be a fine car but will it have enough to deal with the ZL1 or the soon to arrive Z/28? Either way it will be interesting as both the Camaro and Mustrang are the best they ever have been. The one thing really hurting Ford is they have the Mustang on a platform that is only for one car. GM has the luxury where Chevy can take a platform worked up by Cadillac and their budget and make the needed changes and have a much more refined car. Sure the Camaro is a little more but in this day and age where a Fusion and Malibu can easily go over $35K what do you expect? Cars are just too damn expensive anyways. Besides Ford provides a great service with the Mustangs. Someone has to service the trailer park folks!. Sorry I had to say something with everyone pissing on each others legs LOL! Seriously these are great cars and you had better enjoy both before the sound of these engines get replaced with some electric whine. And sadly Sergio is letting the Challenger wither away. Even the Alpha platform may not be enough by the time they get to it.
  20. The real issue here is none of these systems are fool proof. Or should I say idiot proof. First off they may do well but it is easy to say that no system has seen all conditions yet as that would be difficult in the short time they have been testing them. Even the sensors on my GMC now have many false alerts. Then you factor in the idiot behind the wheel. You can call the system super cruise, driver assist or what ever and some idiot will take advantage of it to become even more distracted and not be in position to take control when something does go wrong. Even on air planes they have two pilots with one on watch and enough alarms and time to catch what ever happens. Here you have one person and if distracted they will fail to catch the issue at hand. When you this low to the ground and in close proximity you have little to no time. So when these systems arrive they need to be idiot proof. Imagine getting tens of thousands of these cars out and then finding an issue you may have not found before production. Then how do you deal with all the cars out there. This would be worse than the ignition deal especially if people were killed even in small numbers. This is a system that has to make the legal departments at MFG lay awake at night. GM has no margin of error here. Even if it slows the arrival of these systems down I would not be unhappy as I expect issues to arrive with the first adopters and it is better if they are forced to deal with them. GM s just earning its rep back and got off easy on the ignitions. No need to rush things and have a Headless Harry Potter fan on your hands.
  21. Photo's do not relay the true looks of this car. It really is a great looking car in person. Even sharing the same platform as the Malibu there will be no confusion between the two. The one thing they did is get the length and width right. The last car while nice just was too not wide enough for the length and looked odd because of it.
  22. I saw the Ford profits and GM on a graph. GM holds a good edge. Ford is worried as the market has peaked and they are already heavy on rebates and incentives now. With them holding more debt and lower profits per unit sold it could hurt them in the future. Their stock took a good dip. GM has made the right moves here and lets just hope it is enough to handle the slower sales.
  23. Well like them or not they are premium cars that hold a well crafted image that is enough to get people to pay high prices to be seen in them. The Luxury segment is as profitable as any truck or SUV segment but they can do it at much lower Volumes. Now mix the CUV and SUV with the profits from a luxury segment and it is like printing money. But you even know Benz makes a wide range of cars from basic to some of the most advanced in the world. I can not take that away from them even if i am not a fan. In this country we only see the mid to upper cars and not the cheap ones they send to Albanian.
  24. https://www.google.com/search?q=fiat+dino+coupe+by+ferrar&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS600US600&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=955&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiRwNvEzYzOAhUJHR4KHfTaDE0Q_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=handling+by+lotus+badge Handling by Lotus. Even the old Cortina's and other models were blessed with Lotus engineering tuning. Corvette is not a brand it is a model and you can use it effectivly by taking the engineers and letting them tune on other products as long as it does not distract from their primary car. Now A Tahoe with a Handling by Corvette is ok but to make a SUV and call it a Corvette would be all wrong.
  25. Not quite as it is already a Porsche no need to be redundant. With out the GM performance badge my HHR and your Trailblazer are just Chevys.
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