Hey, I respect that, noone is shoving anything down your throat, I from personal experience know that Domestics have thicker and tougher bodies, but in the enginerring department, there is allot of room for improvement. The Koreans are doing what Honda does, by making tissue-paper thick bodies, which dent easily. I could tell you that the body of the Camry I own, i far tougher and more solid than my mom's Accord. Although we had a Caravan before the Sienna came along, the Caravan's body panels were think and tough, but not put together with precision like the Sienna. Also, despite the tough steel, the front shock housing rusted through, because salt got trapped under there, due to lackluster design, and many people reported these problems with Caravans/Voyager/T&C's... I know people who spent 1500$ to get the entire front shock towers rebuilt, thankfully, our neighbour is a mechanic and did it from us for very cheap. Domestics are a thousand times better, than twenty years ago, however they still have a long way to go to catch up with what the imports have established. However, you are right, when you are a buyer, a GM vehicle is an awesome deal. Like I know people who picked up '01 Aleros and '02 Cavaliers for $4000 privately, because of it's poor resale value. However, my '97 Camry is worth about $7000, so it's win-lose situation, if you are a buyer of a used Toyota, you lose, but you win as a seller, and vise-versa for the domestics.