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Well said, they have to find something to pick on and their praise always seems like it is half hearted. The mere fact that you can mention Pontiac and Porsche in the same sentence tells you that GM is on the right track with their recovery plan. The rags should stop nitpicking things that it would not nit pick if it were made by Porsche, BMW or Lexus.

I think pricing did kill the GTO. I have mentioned it before that I checked out the GTO when it first came out (I liked it from the start when I saw the Monaro and I even bought a diecast car of the Monaro before the GTO die casts came out) and thought the styling could be called to soft but the price gouging turned me off. with the mark up they were asking something like $41,000 if memory serves me correct. I explained to the saleman no one would pay that much for a GTO when they compared it to a used very low mileage 2002 Z06 vette for $44,000 that was sitting on thier lot. Because of that, I wrote off the GTO.

I agree with you 100% in addition to my need to pull out my glasses to read my nano menu.

Some needed good news for the big 2.5. My suspicions on the Charger have been correct. I have seen a lot of Chargers recently in my neck of the woods and most of them have had big flashy non stock rims on them even before their new plates have been added. I was thinking that the Charger was suddenly doing a lot better then before and the looks have grown on me. However, I would still get a GTO, a used C5 Z06 Vette or used CTS-V or (blasphemy) Mustang GT before I pulled the trigger on the Charger.

Just read an article in this mornings paper(7-26) on my Amtrak ride to work and the article stated it was a "go".

Without a side by side photo, I can't tell the difference between the last gen and this new redesign. I guess I am not enough of a fan to notice the difference. My next neighbor has expressed interest in the G35, Cadillac CTS or Chyrsler 300C. We will see what she ends up with.

You won't see me getting rid of my TA's for the G6 convertible. I will get the GTO, Vette or Solstice before I get the G6 vert. I have seen two on the road already. Myself and my 16 year oldl son stopped by the dealership. We both liked the G6 vert but in the end I would want a car with more HP. I like V8s and rear wheel drive too much to give them up.

I don't know, to early totell but it looks like the current Manaro/our GTO with 4 doors. If this things comes over here it will have a "yawn" impact like the GTO has had. I mean I love the current GTO but the general public won't even notice this thing, it still looks too generic in my eyes.

Yes it will be interesting to see how this pans out. Builing it in Australia would be bad given the constant fluctuation of exchange rates. The US would be best because then I could boast it is built in the good old USA, but since I own a 4 gen TA, then Canada would be okay.

Ah never mind, I did not notice there was a Camaro specific sub category. Sorry for the double post.

I am not sure if it has been posted yet, (my sense was that it was not yet approved) but I just picked up the July issue of GM High Tech Performance and they state the the Camaro has finally been approved. Some details: Fact: GM has approved the Camaro for the 2010 model year. Camaro will ride on the Zeta platform. Coupe production will begin in early 2009. Convertible production will start in late 2009. The Camaro coupe's program code is GMX521. The convertible's program code is GMX511. The camaro will be built in Australia. A number of key GM performance and manufacturing engineers have been relocated to Melbourne, Australia's Holden facility to develop the Camaro. Unconfirmed: TRhe 240 horse, 3.9 liter LZ8 V6, and the 300 horse, 5.3 liter LH6 V8 may be the entry level Camaro's engine options. A 400 horse LS2 or 430 plus horse LS3 could be the uplevel engine option. There is talk of a supercharged option. Some inside GM are questioning the slated Independent Rear Suspension in favor of a live axle stup. Given the nature of magazines and how they need about 3 months lead time to publish the magazine, how much of this is real factual considering just a week or two ago Lutz said the Camaro was still not approved. Can the Cheers and Gears inside "moles" ;-) shed any more light on the issue?

I live in the Bay Area (Antioch) and wanted to attend but had to go to some stupid Bluegrass festival in Perkfield instead. Not a happy camper as a result. Great reviews O.C.

I agree, generally I will never buy another import, but if I had too and had the means, the F430 or 360 Modena would be in my garage. I have always liked the styling of these "enrty" level Ferarri's over their more expensive siblings.

Well written and professionaly written article/email. For me it was one of the better reads recently from Cheers and Gears. Thanks.

I have to say I am amazed it started after being submerged in salt water for several hours. i wonder how much more it could have taken.

I have to say I am amazed it started after being submerged in salt water for several hours. i wonder how much more it could have taken.

Well, now I feel much better knowing I am not the only one!... :AH-HA_wink:

Thank you, now I feel like a dork...;-)

Hey guys, I am usually up on the nomenclature and codes but recently I have come across "NG" Sky and "NG" kappa, "NG" north america, etc. What does "NG" signify?

Wow, I do not know why I read all 13 pages of this tread, maybe I like to torture myself, but it did get ugly. I find myself coming here less and less because there seems to be an increase in flames and character assasinations. It becomes difficult to seperate the info from all the crap.

Pontiac Enthusiast has three article on the Solstice this month. On of the articles is on a Solstice that is tricked out by RK Sport and needless to say it looks way to rice.

amen.

Or a new motor on a 100,000 mile Hyndai and more recently a new motor for our Corolla AWD wagon at 199, 6XX as has been with my experience.

thats darn impressive.

165,000 miles in my 93 Trans Am, just oil changes and the original tranny and motor! Start one up for the Trans Am, never mind! GM can't get any publicity with that since they don't make Trans Ams...idiots.