Drew Dowdell

I mean, if I wanted to get petty, I could point out that GMC sells 25% - 30% of its lineup as a Denali, which is mostly a chrome and leather package that cost $5k. Yet Denali sales alone outsell all of Lincoln, or Jaguar Land Rover. Cadillac is not and will never be a full line brand that has to cover every niche. GM has other brands to do that with.

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They'll probably depreciate hard and you can get a CPO one for a song.

Ah! But they count the 43s as AMG also.

And show me... how many GLA45s have actually been sold. I've never seen one outside an auto show and I travel quite a bit. I've only ever seen a small handful of CLA45s. Only the XTS had just a V-Sport. ATS-V ATS-V Coupe CTS-V CTS-V Coupe CT6-V

Cadillac had the XTS V-Sport But seriously, Cadillac had V or V-Sport versions of all their cars... just not the SUVs because I mean really, who'd buy an XT5-V anyway?

Handling. The Alpha chassis is one of the best out there for it. That's not a new thing either. The first gen CTS-V would beat an M3 around a track even though it was M5 sized.

Yeah, I subscribe to Britbox and I'm set for a while on shows to catch up on. I'm only partway through Midsomer because each episode is so long. I really enjoyed Vera and I"m just about to finish Elementary.

No, not into reality shows either. I like crime drama... Sherlock Holmes, Poirot, Law and Order and the like.

No, I never did watch such trash...

You won't fit in it.

wtf is jabroni

Getting more for your money is not a price reduction? Okay, forget the Leaf. Before the Bolt, it cost you $60ish k to get over 235 miles of range. After the Bolt it cost you $30ish K. That's a price reduction. How about another example? I have an old iPod sitting here with 64gb of memory that originally cost about $400. Now you can get one with 256gb for $400... that is a reduction in price.

Sure it is a purchasing cost reduction. Until the Bolt was made, $30ish thousand dollars got you 100ish miles of range. Once the Bolt was released, $30ish thousand dollars got you 235 miles of range. Prior to that, to get over 200 miles of range cost around $60ish k. Putting it another way... if the Silverado 2500 were suddenly the same price as a 1500, that is a big cost reduction. And Range doesn't effect operating costs any more than a bigger gas tank does. If you're getting X miles out of Y amount of juice, it doesn't cost you less just because you fill up less often.

20 miles, no... but going from Leaf to Bolt for the same price... that's over 100 miles? That's a cost reduction.

I"m guessing the people at benz are smarter about this than anyone on this message board. It already has in the form of range increases without cost increases. When the leaf came out, it only had about 100 mile range. The bolt was released at about the same price as the leaf, but had a 235 mile range. GM just increased the range of the bolt again with no increase to price.

Nissan dropped the Altima hybrid too for this generation. I think Accord and Camry are the only mid-size hybrids left.

Definitely needs a more powerful version. If a Lacross AWD and 300 AWD can get the same fuel economy with much more power, then there is no reason the Arteon couldn't do it with a V6 as well.

C&G will be 32 years old by then, well be able to come back and see No necessarily. Costs will come down. The already are.

The Volkswagen Arteon is the vehicle that effectively replaces the Volkswagen CC in VW’s lineup, however, it comes at the segment with a noticeably different approach. The Arteon is much more interesting looking than the old CC and comes as a hatchback rather than a sedan. I would hesitate to use the word “bold” about the Arteon’s looks, as feels rather conservative to me, but it still has a gravitas that lets passers-by know that this is not an ordinary Volkswagen. The front end has a lot of detailing with multiple creases in the hood and a deep, wide grille. Thick wheel arches give the car a muscular look. Around back, the hatch area fits between a set of thick thighs and a set of tail lights that almost look Benz-like. Down below there is a chrome strip that runs around the entire perimeter of the car. As handsome as the exterior is, the interior is a bit of a letdown. In the SEL version I drove, the interior materials were not up to snuff for a car with a $42,795 sticker price and the design is fairly sterile. There is a wide strip that traverses the dash and mimics the look of the grille and below that, another wood (plood?) strip runs parallel. The center stack is neatly organized with all knobs and buttons within easy reach. If you are a bit of a neat freak like me about your car, keep a microfiber duster in the glovebox to wipe down the piano black surfaces. The seats are flat and firm but without much lateral support. As a hatchback, rear passengers get cut out of a bit of headroom, but there is plenty of legroom back there for them to stretch out. Cargo room for this size of a car can only be described as cavernous. The hatch lifts up high and out of the way giving you easy access to anything you can rear. Fold the rear seats down and you may even say “Crossover, what?”, there is 55 cubic feet of cargo room back there. The Arteon comes with an 8-inch touch screen display that includes Apple Car Play and Android Auto. Android Auto is easy to set up and I stayed in that mode during my entire drive. Driving the Arteon is probably the best part about it. My tester came equipped with 4motion, Volkswagen’s all-wheel-drive system. It works well and the car feels glued to the road during the twisties. No matter which level of Arteon you buy, you have a single choice of engine. Standard is a 2.0 liter turbocharged 4-cylinder with 268 horsepower and 258 lb.-ft of torque connected to an 8-speed automatic transmission. It is this engine that delayed the Arteon’s entry into the U.S. due to a backlog of certification testing. This setup is merely adequate. It neither thrills you nor lets you down. I do wish a V6 were available, but small-displacement turbo-4s are where the market is going these days. Unfortunately, even with the small displacement 4-cylinder, you still get V6-like fuel economy. The Arteon is rated for 20 city / 27 highway / 23 combined. For reference, that’s about the same as an AWD Buick Lacrosse with a big V6 and 310 horsepower, in fact, the Buick does a little better on the highway and so do most other V6 sedans. In normal mode the transmission is a bit lazy, upshifting early and reluctant to downshift. In sport mode, it wakes up a little but there is still a lag when downshifting. The ride and drive of the Arteon is definitely dialed towards comfort over sport. It comes equipped with a DCC adaptive ride system, but I notice almost no difference between the Sport and Comfort modes. Cruising along in the Arteon is serene with very little noise from the outside entering the cabin. It is certainly a car that can get you into trouble with the leasing company for mileage. Is the Arteon a car I can recommend? Yes and no. If you’re a die-hard VW fan, then the Arteon is an easy choice to make. Otherwise, there are more powerful and more upscale options out there for the price, but you wouldn’t be wrong to choose this one. Year: 2019 Make: Volkswagen Model: Arteon Trim: SEL w/4Motion Engine: 2.0L DOHC Turbocharged Direct Injected 4-cylinder Driveline: 8-Speed automatic with all-wheel-drive Horsepower: 268 Torque @ RPM: 258 @ 0 - 3,600 Curb Weight: 3,655 lbs Location of Manufacture: Emden, Germany Base Price: $35,845 As Tested Price: $42,790 (Includes $995.00 Destination Charge) View full article

Definitely.... with the engine lines that just came out, they'll have 10 to 15 years of ICE. And if they need to, they can just keep increasing the amount of power that comes from electric and decreasing the ICE size (instead of an I6 lite hybrid, an I4 hybrid with a stronger EV component)

Well look how long the Buick 3.8 liter ran.... they just kept making updates to it without changing the engine family. I'd wager that's what Benz is going to be doing.

I really like the steering wheel. Some interesting ones from a recent car cruise.

Saudi Arabia has been lying about their production for years... so I have no reason to assume they're telling the truth now.