Drew Dowdell

It's gotta either be the early W-bodies. Lumina, Grand Prix, Cutlass, Regalor the early 80s B-bodies, Caprice, Parisianne, Eighty Eight, Electra

oh, and one other comment.How is the world catching up to Honda?It's not like everyone else doesn't make 4 cylinders or 6 cylinders.For every car that Honda makes, there is an American car in that class that has an engine with the same number of cylinders.Civic: Cobalt, Neon/Caliber, Focus = 4Accord: Aura, Malibu, G6, Sebring, Stratus, Fusion = 4 or 6... and notibly, the Aura Hybrid 4 while accord gets a hybrid 6.TSX: 9-3 = 4TL: CTS, Zephyr, 300 V6RL: STS, 300 = V6 AWDElement: HHR, PT Cruiser = 4 CR-V: Vue, Escape = 4 ..... both americans have hybrids available while the CR-V does not.so yeah... who is catching up to who?

great write up

I'm not quite sure what the point of the article is other than perhaps to polish Honda's knob. The article makes it out like Honda's real competiors are only the Americans while Toyota can be ignored. The article is neither informative nor does it reach any sort of conclusion. Then there are the unrelated statistical gems... like this one: While both are interesting nuggets, it is unclear <and unexplained> how the two are related... though the article implies that they are. and the making of excuses: and the spin: yeah, where's the RSX again? How are those Ridgelines selling? I hear the RL is about to overtake the BMW 5-series in sales....... or not. Don't get me wrong, honda has some great product. I take more issue with their styling than anything else. The article did get one thing dead on: and that, Honda does, very very very well.

I only ever listen to Morning Edition, Day to Day, All things Considered, and Car Talk. To me, the news on them seems to be fairly balanced.... I don't hear much "fringe"

good god! what state are you in? I'm at $1100 a year for a policy that covers my '04 CTS and '03 Avalanche

anybody else getting a 1998 Civic vibe from the front end?

no, that's grandfather's car.

oh look, you posted a pics of the Saturn Aura and Saturn Aura Redline!

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This is 68 posting from 2009. the answer is the Impala obviously....

just wear a rubber next time.....

keep in mind that this thing weighs more than a base DTS.... so it's it's powertrain really that competitive?

if TL = "woman's car" then set ES = "grandmother's car"

If we can memorize it... plus a good amount of details of the competiors, why can't the sales men?

hmmm I don't like that thought too much how about "first there was the Lucerne and then there was the DTS" or First there was the Malibu and then there was the Aura I don't think "first there was the Cobalt and then there was the G5" would cut it.

I walk into the dealer already knowing more about the car than the salesman does, the only thing I ever need a salesman for is to write up the paperwork once he's accepted the price I'm willing to pay. If they'd install self checkouts, I wouldn't even need a salesman.

OMG!!! We need a smily that is "Flybrian > . "

It's a 5/8ths Town Car with 8/8ths the weight.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Hyundai already has a larger dealer network than Jag. They'd have to just to move the number of Sonatas and Accents they do. No. Hyundai doesn't have the technology <yet> to take over Jag. The reason their cars get the crash ratings they do is because they simply throw iron at them. No advanced technology going on there. Witness the Kia Amanti that outweighs a DTS!

yeah, there's the benchmark for high performance sport sedans....

the point is, you're deflecting. Address the issue of the thread, Camry hesitation issues, not ford cruise control switches.

I hope you aren't implying that OHC is new technology....

What is this a drag race? I want to know how it handles pulling stumps or hauling a trailer over the West Virginia mountains.

people who spend 100k on a BMW or Porsche are paying more money for a lesser car... at least on athletic terms. No, don't increase production. Not everything should mass produced. Keeping an item rare increases the percieved value of the item. To put it another way, would you rather sell two Corvettes with $9000 ADM or 3 Corvettes with $6000 ADM all else being equal?