Drew Dowdell

50% of Five hundreds are still sitting on the lots.

Great engineering went into that second gear and sixth gear? or does execution stand for "plastic that falls on the gas pedal and holds it down"? Maybe it means "steering wheel that falls off while driving" or "baby ejector seat"

just did a Pittsburgh to Lancaster and back run last weekend.... 28.5 mpg average @ 75mph cruise, 65mph cruise between Allegheny tunnel and Blue Mountain tunnel <the most mountainous section>.

again, that is more a function of the dated and ill-sized W-body.

And they're trying to hit what number with the NG Zeta Impala alone?

n00dz?

American Idol is *clearly* the best T.V. show </sarcasm> I'm curious What are the totals? Camry + Solara + ES = Impala + Monte Carlo + LaCrosse + GrandPrix = Taurus + Sable = Five Hundred + Montego = With the W-bodies spread across 3 divisions and 4 cars, <4 Divisions and 6 cars in the past> what essentially happened was a Impala Base, Impala Solara, Impala ES, Impala SE. So yeah, divisionally, the Camry beats the Impala, but that ignores the rest of the cars out there.

Because that is Cadillac and Saturn's job. Chevy and Buick are American tuned Saturn and Cadillac are Euro tuned and I don't know WTF is up with Pontiac....Australian tuned maybe?

I've tried...

Buick should compete with the IS and G because it's similarly priced? What nonsense! The Mini-Cooper and Crown Victoria share lower and upper price points... they're natural competitors then! Buicks are big and comfortable. They have a lot of go-power when you need it, but otherwise are for relaxed cruising with minimal audible intrusions. Your grandfather would be wise to trade his STS in on a Lucerne. Why should Buick not get a down graded Sigma? Because there isn't much room under the CTS for it to go. The size of it would dictate that it would be the entry level Buick, probably replacing the Lacrosse. People would bitch and moan if you put anything other than the 3.6 under the hood. Then load it up with nav, xm radio, leather. Enthusiasts would want supportive <read: hard> seats, console shift, sport suspension. Talk would swirl of a "Skylark Super" edition with a specially tuned 6.0 litre V8 with a 6-speed manual..... and.... oh &#036;h&#33;... it's the CTS! Let Buick be Buick. As far as the ride, the Lucerne CXS has it about right...for a Buick. As for looks, I think the Lucerne looks great especially in black.

well, keep in mind, when these things were being produced... the jeans and shirt weren't outdated....

can you independently contact the clinic? I would

Why must we re-live these things over and over? We can't make the same mistake again.... term limitations ya know.

How about a Saturn Outlook? What is your timeline? BTW, the only 3 members to have responded to you so far are gay. edit: the rest are still in shock.

StaceFace was just here a few days ago.

fixed. buick came up with a very interesting idea with the Bengal... something I think they should consider doing for all their future FWD platforms. They turned the engine and transmission 180 degrees so that the transmission was now in front of the engine. This allowed the wheels to be pushed further forward.

Agreed......Well, the G and W bodies. Buick will never, and should never look at the IS, G35, 3, and C as it's competition in the 30k class. and that's fine.... the CTS and STS are there to lure your 40k away from you....if that is the class you are shopping in Buick wouldn't be on your list anyway. What happens when gas prices continue to climb <and they will continue to climb>? Those SUV owners who don't tow anything more than a double mocha latte will get their step ladders out and climb down out of their 'Burbons, and their Armadas and get themselves into a sedan or crossover. More than likely, if they get a sedan, it will *not* be a 3-series or CTS. The size change would be too great.

Everyone goes nuts over the 300c because of it's styling and the not-really-a-Hemi. It'd sell even if it was FWD. People have gone nuts over the Mini-Cooper, New Beatle, Mazda 6, Nissan Altima and I'm sure a few others. If RWD were such a big deal to people, why don't the Lincoln LS, Pontiac GTO, and Mercury Maurader fly off the shelves? Face it, it's the styling that sells. There are great selling, great looking FWD cars. There are poor selling, dull looking, RWD cars. For every 300 that is sold, there is a Panther and a GTO sitting on a lot somewhere.

lies! GM fleets everything.... even the new Escalades are rentals.

What you are explaining is that GM's platforms are old, NOT that a FWD Lucerne can't sell. Two completely different issues. Would you similarly charge Acura for "falling behind" when it still offers predominantly FWD <and one, poor selling, AWD> cars? What about Lexus for continuing to offer it's ES? A properly engineered, modern platform, full sized, luxury car can sell... and C&D will harp on it all year for not out handling the 3-series.... but that's ok, because it's not supposed to.

they'll sell every one as long as it has that T shaped sombraro on the hood.

You put Chery above even the Verona? The Verona isn't a bad car, it doesn't deserve to be at the very bottom. It's worst offence is being underpowered for a 6 cylinder, but being an inline 6, it is quiet smooth and refined.

The old camry and current solara share about as much between them as the current Impala and current Monte Carlo. You can bet the press would have a field day if Chevy tried to count Impala and monte carlo sales together.

Fly, I get that error during standard business hours, multiple times a day.

I'm offended! *huff*