Drew Dowdell

*scoff* Just another example of Buick using "ancient" technology.

The interior is way above Pontiac's expected class.

I just don't understand what all the speculation is about. You can see clearly that it's Commodore based. It's a Commodore with a Pontiac grill. Not that it's a bad thing, I may even go for a G8 over a CTS in '08.

Ya gotta Sonata.....

How many SUV drivers take their vehicles off road? It's not that they do, it's that they could..... edit: Everyone likes the idea of a car that runs 500k miles. It sells cars. Few ever keep theirs that long though.

fixed I don't think either brand is safe.

I'll say it again. Expect a Holden Commodore with the Pontiac front end you see there. Go to Holden's website if you want to see what this thing will look like.

but that doesn't excuse the car rags from blasting on the domestic's digital dashes while giving a pass to Honda and Nissan <which did them before too>.

but not the SRX?

I think it's the "look and feel" they're going after. Ya know, not selling cars out of a mobile office trailer like Mitsubishi is doing these days.....

Most Jag/Land Rover dealers seem to be paired up with other premium makes. Around here we have a Jag/LR/BMW and a Jag/Lex/Volvo Mazda usually seem to be paired with someone else also.... oddly, around here, it's generally VW.

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and the fact that the Crown Vic is now outselling the 500

So wait... digital speedometers are cool again?

I see nothing wrong with the W-bodies for what they were in their day. My problem is with how long they've been around. Of course, the only ones worth their salt were the Olds models. :AH-HA_wink:

expected and unremarkable. You wouldn't know it was "special" except for the logo on the grill.

Could be, but not always. Even when the dealer does my oil change, they put that stupid sticker up on my windshield saying to come back in 3000 miles. It gets taken down before I even turn the key.

Someone else pointed out sales numbers, but I was referring to power. Either way, CTS-V wins.

I only use Mobil 1. After it's been in the engine a while, you really can't tell the difference. You won't harm the engine by switching. You can ask for synthetic when you get your oil changed. It'll cost more. The cheapest synth oil change I've found is at Walmart. As much as I hate Walmart, they'll do a synthetic oil change for you for less than it costs to buy the oil and filter off the shelf. As long as you're not leaking oil too bad, you can just about double the time between oil changes. I don't know what your Dodge has, but both my Avalanche and CTS have engine oil life monitors. I judge my oil change time off those and generally get about 12k between changes.

It's going to be a badge job direct from Holden. Look at the Commodore SS and that's what you'll get.

lil smaller :AH-HA_wink:

I'm going to make an uneducated guess that 50% of those will be Outlooks selling around Pilot prices... thus the other 50% will be Acadias and Enclaves... both of which will sell at a substantially higher price than even a loaded up Pilot. 150k vehicles at a higher average transaction price than the Pilot is not a bad thing.

I think it was likely a timing and capacity issue.

Not true. I remember when the CTS-V came out all the bruhaha that was being spewed about the 5.7 not having DOHC and it not being refined enough for a Cadillac or to compete with BMW/Mercedes.