Drew Dowdell

I see VW TDIs, MB E-class CDIs, and Jeep Liberty CRDs, with some frequency.

Part of the problem here was that GM/Onstar didn't know who they were going to switch do. Do they go Verizon? Do they go GSM? Do they go nextel? Yes they were a bit slow making the decision...... but what happens when CDs are no longer produced and you can only get your Nav system map upgrades on Blu-Ray.... what then? What happens when there is a replacement for Bluetooth in 10 years and all the new cell phones come out with "greentooth" and aren't compatible with your 2007 STS? What happens when XM and Sirrius eventually merge and require an "upgrade" in order to continue using the service. Think of the precedent that this case sets up for technology in cars....... and what sense does it make to sue GM over this when GM doesn't control the Cellular Network/Bluetooth standard/CD manufacturing/XM Radio system?

It looks like it belongs on Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends.

so you just cut and past all of your posts?

actually.... yes it does. Cadillac is showing this to us now. They are moving themselves up market and they're eventually going to have to abandon their lower end <for it's size class> DTS customers. The DTS is still holding Cadillac back.

then she can sleep in the garage... he <she?> drives what I buy him

She handle a stick well then? BTW, you realize your sig has now grown to take up 50% of the vertical height of a screen set to 1280x1024?

Saturn isn't the same Saturn it was back when it start.... "It's a Different Kind of Company" now.....

It took me 5 minutes to get that.....

I might. I'd take one over a G8..... not that there is anything wrong with the G8, but the Park Ave is more my style.

I most likely has the 200hp 4.9 liter so don't expect to be doing any stop light drag racing.... while not a 300hp Northstar, they're at least reliable and cheap to repair.

hell no on that price.....besides, has the transmission been replaced yet? Generally you do that at every other oil change on the Taurus.

There are spy pics up of the Grand National at www.notgonnahappen.com

I guess only Toyotas with a T on them try to ram you?

in addition to all that, the thing that really kills the LX cars for me is the absolutely brainless location of the cruise control.

I can get rebates, price breaks, and GM card points on a 'Nox.

A B-PILLAR!?!?!?!?!! CRUSH IT!!

Of course technology has made appliances better. It's managed to convince 90% of Americans that the new stuff is better and will last longer, while in fact it's probably about the same, will not last as long, and cost less on an adjusted basis to produce. So.. yeah definitely better. Oh.... wait.... You're not CEO of General Electric?

Let the Nox have the lower MSRP and the discounts. If you want to move Saturn upscale, you have to accept a higher price. It's not like Saturn is trying to take a Zeta body and make a 90k sedan out of it with the Saturn badge. <glares at VW>. A 3,700k increase in base price with a corresponding or greater increase in features is justifiable. Not every car can start at 19k anymore.

The finger of god.

Pontiac G6?

otherwise you're eatin fin?

LOL! ouch? The ability to pick up guys hasn't been an issue for me.... not that it's a goal for Houston.

I could go

yeah, but where is the gay area now?!