Drew Dowdell

I most likely has the 200hp 4.9 liter so don't expect to be doing any stop light drag racing.... while not a 300hp Northstar, they're at least reliable and cheap to repair.

hell no on that price.....besides, has the transmission been replaced yet? Generally you do that at every other oil change on the Taurus.

There are spy pics up of the Grand National at www.notgonnahappen.com

I guess only Toyotas with a T on them try to ram you?

in addition to all that, the thing that really kills the LX cars for me is the absolutely brainless location of the cruise control.

I can get rebates, price breaks, and GM card points on a 'Nox.

A B-PILLAR!?!?!?!?!! CRUSH IT!!

Of course technology has made appliances better. It's managed to convince 90% of Americans that the new stuff is better and will last longer, while in fact it's probably about the same, will not last as long, and cost less on an adjusted basis to produce. So.. yeah definitely better. Oh.... wait.... You're not CEO of General Electric?

Let the Nox have the lower MSRP and the discounts. If you want to move Saturn upscale, you have to accept a higher price. It's not like Saturn is trying to take a Zeta body and make a 90k sedan out of it with the Saturn badge. <glares at VW>. A 3,700k increase in base price with a corresponding or greater increase in features is justifiable. Not every car can start at 19k anymore.

The finger of god.

Pontiac G6?

otherwise you're eatin fin?

LOL! ouch? The ability to pick up guys hasn't been an issue for me.... not that it's a goal for Houston.

I could go

yeah, but where is the gay area now?!

You don't have frameless glass... so no.

So... Galveston eh? Should I pack my hot swim trunks and go guy shopping?

But strangely.... you could add a b-pillar if you wanted the Landau look. My 1985 Toronado looked just like this except in all black. the B-pillar can be removed with just 2 screws.

Ya know... technically, GM had a line of cars with hardtops from 1979-1985. Just the back window didn't go down. The '79-'85 E-bodies did NOT have a B-pillar.

there is a Cadillac equivalent? Cadillac I'm still waiting for my ETC.

I'm not suprised.... they liked the last one too.

I know, but in this case it was one of those special "sub-classes" that you have to click "view more cars" to get. I'm looking forward to the Acadia, but I wouldn't turn down an Outlook either. Just as long as I don't get the xTerra the travel agent was trying to foist on me.

you can't really call it that anymore..... the Ass is in washington

I thought that was the intake manifold gasket...

I'll be arriving May 17th and leaving May 22nd. Interestingly, National is getting me an Acadia.