Drew Dowdell

So.... let me get this straight. You're willing to leave Chevy because they can't upgrade your OnStar.... and go to a model line that doesn't have a telematics SOS system anything close to Onstar.... Again, I can understand if you were upset about an STS and were thinking of going Lexus...but being upset with a Chevy and Lexus is now one of your considerations.... that's just silly. A GMS Impala SS was likely in the mid-20s for you. That'll get you a loaded 4cylinder Camry or a basic V6. but either way... good luck with your purchase. The Impala is the best value full sizer this side of a Crown Vic.

Saddam was a derange man who in his old age was writing long winded Arabic romance novels that not even your local Eckard would carry. He had no WMDs he had no program to create WMDs. There was no Al Queda in Iraq till after we invaded. The war in Iraq has accomplished nothing but angering a lot of people who were previously ambivalent towards us. If you are going to respond that "Saddam was a bad man and was killing his own people".... well yeah, but there are other... much worse... dictators out there who aren't sitting on oil fields but we haven't paid much attention to them. Darfur? Zimbabwe? North Korea? Why haven't we invaded them? Because they aren't sitting on oil. Look at who we're rattling our saber at now.... Iran. Guess what Iran has? Oil. $187 Billion invested in alternative energy of all sources would help to ween us off this horrible addiction we have. Will we ever stop using oil completely? Of course not, but we can certainly marginalize it so it has less effect on our lives.

Considering in 2004 Onstar was pretty much standard and you had GMS already you likely paid next to nothing for the equipment itself. Heck, GMS pricing alone saved you more than the cost of the Onstar at sticker price! If you were complaining about a $48,000 '04 STS that you paid full sticker for, you'd have a bit of sympathy..... not so much on an '04 Impala that you got GMS pricing on and probably paid less than 20k for. edit: And it your wife and kids love it so much, have you asked your wife and kids what they though about the OnStar going away? If it's as big an issue for them as it is for you. You friendly local Cheverolet dealer will gladly sell you a shiny new Impala with Active Fuel Management, FlexFuel, Flip storage rear seats and the newest digital OnStar...... all at a low low GMS price.

Cause I don't want a buck tooth wonder? Again, I want a premium car with all the appointments that gets great gas mileage. As long as I can option out an Aura GL the same way I can an Aura XL, I'll bite.

The Olds 350D?

$187 billion + 10s of thousands of lives for a war in Iraq or $187 Billion spent on Biofuel infrastructure, research, and "subsidies" to farmers your call.

As Fly already demonstrated:

only 25% of the people in this forum have the potential to get that joke to it's fullest extent......

uhm....

I think it'd be more likely that he'd never buy a GM again based on the fact that he has an '04 Impala.... but that's just me.

they sell B100 here <in Western PA> with some sort of additive in it to prevent gelling.

especially for a "mild" hybrid

n00b

I was just on here 8 months ago beating the drum for more premium 4-cylinder cars from the domestics. Right now the Milan and Aura Hybrid are it. I'd buy an Aura Hybrid if I could load it out like a top of the line XR. I'd buy a CTS-D if I can load it up good. Just because I like to save fuel and help the ecosystem doesn't mean I want to drive an optionless, pregnant shoebox.

it's the garage door opener for the bat cave...... but if you don't know where the bat cave is, then ya, it won't be much use to you

Saturn has had one of the best customer retention rate of the domestics and is pretty high even industry wide. I'm sure there are a lot of SL, Ion sedan, and L-series owners out there that would love to trade up to an Aura Hybrid. GM will sell every one they build.

the character she plays....

Your Nissan Versa is trying to kill you, with interior toxins The Ecology Center, a non-profit environmental group, performed tests utilizing an X-Ray Fluorescence (XRF) device that can measure "the elemental composition of any material" and came away with the ten best and worst vehicles to be stuck inside. The Chevy Cobalt, Chrysler PT Cruiser and Honda Odyssey take top honors for having the fewest toxins, while the Nissan Versa, Chevy Aveo and Scion xB are the worst offenders. The tests isolate toxins like, arsenic, bromine, chlorine and mercury, found in everything from the carpet to the dash board, but the Ecology Center didn't identify what the degree of risk is while sitting in start and stop traffic. Link to Autoblog article

For laptops, the Lenovo/IBM Thinkpads are where it's at these days.

ya the divorce has made me bitter and cold

I believe that my Onstar upgrade letter that I received yesterday said that if I decided not to upgrade to digital, my onstar service would end in December of '08. I'll check it again tonight, but that's what I think it said. look, any car that can't be upgraded is going to be an '01 or earlier. At the end of 2008 when the shut down might begin those cars will be a minimum of 7 years old with most being much older. Even a top of the line '01 STS is worth, what, $8,000 now on the used market and probably $6,000 at the end of 2008? People who buy those cars won't care about the Onstar. People who have those cars probably let it expire already. Worst case scenario is Grandma with her 1998 Park Ave who never shut off the OnStar service after Granddad died. I know mom stopped subscribing to onstar on her '01 Aurora years ago..... and she's one who really needs it.

I got my Onstar "upgrade" letter yesterday. $15 to upgrade to the digital equipment if I subscribe for another year. My lease is up in February, but the discount on a yearly rate is enough to make it not matter. I may do the upgrade just to get the better signal as I've had the "remote horn and lights" feature fail on me in a parking garage <4th floor, open sides> before. They couldn't get signal through to the car even though I was parked on the outer rim of the garage. I park downtown a lot, often in multiple garages per day, so sometimes I forget where I put the car.

Miranda from Devil Wears Prada

Bigger and blander than ever?

I have always hated "cab forward" design.