Drew Dowdell

Acura TL front + split waterfall grill + Amanti tail lights

MB and BMW don't have anything lower to share with..... I know... Mini could come out with the MiniCooper-L based on the 7-Series chassis. and two questions, how is the CTS making Cadillac an entry level brand but the 1-series, C-Class and the former C-class coupe, the proposed B-class NOT making MB and BMW into entry lux?

yes... 25% of us can get testicles better than the rest.... get the joke and move on.

Link to Article and Pics at Autoblog For the past two decades, the only thing consistent about Ford's Lincoln division has been its inconsistency. To put it lightly, the brand has struggled to find it's place in the automotive landscape. The vehicles from Ford's premium domestic division haven't had a coherent look since the early '80s. Several of its models, such as the LS and the Navigator, have sold well at times, but the absence of a Lincoln DNA hasn't helped. In 2006, North American Design chief Peter Horbury set about changing all that. He gave his team the task of examining past Lincolns to determine what set them apart. The first new model intended to set Lincoln on it's path to rebirth is the 2009 MKS, which is making its debut in production form at the LA Auto Show later today. The MKS first appeared as a concept at the 2006 Detroit Auto Show. It's based on the same platform as the Ford 500/Taurus, which originated at Volvo under the S80/XC90. When the concept first appeared it was reasonably well received as a pleasant if not daring design for the marque. Subsequently, Horbury's team began its quest for the soul of Lincoln and came up with a list of seven elements that would be part of future Lincoln designs. Most of these appeared on the 2007 MKR concept that we saw in Detroit. While most of the MKS was already locked in for production, after the show Ford management made the decision to adopt one of most prominent elements from the new MKR concept, its grille.

See, I'm promoting it from a car enthusiasts point of view. You don't live in an area that is suitable for car sharing, however I do. Car sharing will allow me to buy an old car while not having the worry of being stranded if the car is stuck in the driveway and not running and also no longer have the need for a "daily driver" backup car. It will also allow me to sell the Avalanche which mostly sits in my driveway since I can just pickup a Flexcar truck for the 4 times a month that I need a truck.

A3 based on Rabbit A4 based on Passat A8 based on Phaeton Q....whatever based on Tourege RX based on Higlander ES based on Camry GX based on Sequioa LX based on Land Cruiser QX56 based on Armada TL based on Accord TSX based on Euro-spec Accord RSX based on Civic MDX based on Pilot/Odyssey RDX based on CRV Who is Cadillac looking like again!?

I don't think you quite get it......

Just so you'll quit yappin about the weight, I'm going to link back to this post every time you call the CTS fat. A6 Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 3858 4034 tiptronic 535 Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 3703 CTS Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 3872 E-Class Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 3740 M35 Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 3880 GS 350 Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 3704 Acura RL Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 4014 300 3.5 Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 3766 Lincn LS Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) 3772

Zeta is cheaper to build and just as good?

and you've got to be kidding with that jacked up AMC Concord sport coupe they're calling an SUV....

WTF? Lincoln canceled their more performance oriented, lowest price, RWD model in favor of a FWD, Mazda based luxury cruiser. Cadillac is on the second <or 3rd if you count the Catera... hey.. it did handle well> iteration of their RWD luxury sport sedan. Cadillac has pwned Lincoln in the full sized luxury SUV market. Lincoln has no roadster. Lincoln has nothing in the STS's range... and at least Cadillac tried. And even the DTS is worlds better than the Towncar even if the Towncar out-fleets it.

uh... I am on your side on this one.

need help?

Why the hell not?

I'd hit it!

In Europe, a lot of new construction focuses on enviromental efficiency. I did still see American style McMansion parks, but not nearly as often as here.

Yes there is the freedom of choice, but as discussed in this thread, this whole issue is really about mis-directed anger.

don't worry, 25% of us can muster up testicles better than anyone....

I don't think this car looks good in anything other than white or black.... then it looks almost like an older E-class from the front.

How can I miss you when you won't go away?

Very Theta-ish.... and isn't it a bit early to be seeing something that complete for a 2010 intro?

I said it in a thread the other day, though Camino says it's not just that.. yes I'm going to make you SEARCH for it.

Interesting tidbit I found online: And that's just a single cylinder pushmower. Imagine what the multiple cylinder diesels used at construction sites do to the air!

Emissions are an issue in so many areas of transportation *other* than cars it's really crazy to heap all this scorn on the automobile. Big Rigs really didn't have much emission control equipment until very recently and most of it is aimed at the low sulfur diesel issue. Low sulfur diesel plays havoc with older diesel engine's fuel pumps and injectors. Diesel Locomotives have essentially no emissions controls at all though are arguably the most efficient way to move commodities. Boats of all sorts often don't even have a muffler. Know what the muffler is? The water. and I already spoke about the airplane issue though the 787 looks promising in that not only does it use 20% less fuel it's engines are cleaner too.

actually, that kinda explains it.