Drew Dowdell

Didn't they rate the G35 better than the 3-series also? The CTS is 5-series/M35 sized. Of course it's going to be heavier than the 3-series/G35. When you get a bigger car it tends to weigh more. :doh: Don't tell me we're going to start rating cars on pounds per dollar....

Malibu will get people who normally wouldn't consider a chevy into the showroom especially with reviews like that Edmunds review which basically calls the Camry stale. If they end up in an Impala instead...so what? Dealers need to be shed. If Toyota can sell at it's volume with less than half the stores, so can GM.

also... how has just having NAV available worked out for Ford on the Fusion, Milan, Taurus, and Sable?

Sorry, offering a $2,000 NAV system on top of the $22,000 the car is already going for is not going to push sales over 300k... especially in the economy we're heading into. Just file it under notgonnahappen

Are you kidding? That's been a forecast for about 5 years. Just no one listened.

Toyota sold 448,000 Camries last year. Wake me when Malibu sells better than 2/3s of that.

and yet won't significantly effect sales...

I bet that's great for NHV...

It goes like this.Toyota starts having major quality problems with some of their biggest selling models. The Camry drops to "Not Recommended" at CR Chevy simultaneously releases very competitive new Malibu. Toyota releases a new Corolla with a Yaris-Camry face glued on the front. Chrysler cuts the Pacifica Honda releases another bland but this time somewhat awkward looking Accord sedan. Numerous Toyota Tundra problems surface Buick has it's first hit in decades, GM restricts production to keep demand high, resale values are affected across the Buick line. After 20 years, GM advertising pulls their head out their ass. New CTS makes the IS look like your mother's 5 year old Camry.

you misinterpreted Lutz's remarks

Super 88 would clearly be the correct choice here.

17,000 more....

GS 430/450h 81 204 -61.8 .... and people are mocking the STS? FJ CRUISER 4,164 5,334 -24.9... showing that taste is returning to the US population.

SRX up 37 percent and they're still not going to have a next gen? It's obvious the MCE really helped.

has to be a massive understatement for them to halt sales.

consolidate to the 300c Estate Wagon that is sold overseas.

I think you mean the transition from G-body to W-body. W-body started in 1988 and poorly as it was only sold as a coupe at first. It was rushed forward once GM saw the Taurus/Sable in 1987.

existing corolla body + yaris headlights + camry grill barely even changed the tail end of the sedan.

I'm surprised the PT is going simply because it was selling well.

I've owned one before.... I'm not afraid.

It's not always the car as a whole that was a pile, sometimes it was just the engine. The 8-6-4 is the most notorious example even though it was one year only. Most of the crappy engines were from attempts to squeeze better fuel economy out of really large cars. One of the engines I loath the most is Cadillac's 4100 series V8. This engine was used on most Cadillac models beginning in 1982 after the failure of the 8-6-4. It had 125hp at 4200 rpm and 190ft/lb of torque at 2,000rpm. Put this in a 4,000lb. Cadillac and calling the performance "underwhelming" would be polite. The engine had to work so hard to move the car that there were no net gains in fuel economy unless all driving was done at a 60mph cruise. The intake manifold gaskets gave out fairly early in the engine's life and GM's initial response was to put "Stop Leak" into the cooling system. If there was a coolant loss and the engine overheated it was basically a goner as parts of the aluminum block would warp enough to ruin the engine. They never did get the issues of this engine fixed and it was replaced by a redesigned version that was 4.5 litres. The 4100 is basically a deal breaker for me in my search for an old E-body or Seville. Since my target year is 1985, I would actually even take a car with an Olds 350 diesel over a 4100 because by 1985 they had the issues with the diesel worked out. The 4100 really ruins an otherwise good car.

The vents on a few of the buicks and caddies are functional. I know they aren't on the Enclave, but I think the Lucerne's are.

This is a rant looking for something to rant about.

eh, it'll sell profitably but it doesn't milk my guernsey. Get me a Hummer Wrangler beater and I'll be interested.