Drew Dowdell

I"m just not sure how they can recover with their lineup. There is just nothing compelling left. The LX platform is arguably their best but that's now dated. Even the Taurus/Sable offers a more compelling package now with a nicer interior, AWD option, and class leading fuel economy.... you know it's bad when you're ceding the high ground to the Taurus. The Sebring, Avenger, Dakota, and Aspen are a bigger flop than a Will Ferrell direct to DVD movie. With gas parked in the $3.00 range, most likely for good, Jeeps other than the Wrangler are going to be in trouble. The Ram will be released right in time to go up against a new F-150 and the still fresh GMT-900s and unless Dodge has some magic fairy dust, I highly doubt the interior will be up to the competition's standards. So what's left.... Caliber, PT Cruiser, Wrangler, and the Mini-vans... If you were Cerberus, would you really want to hang your hat on those?

AutoBlog Link Chrysler has released sketches today of three eco-minded concepts it will be unveiling at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show in January, and the first we'll tell you about is the Chrysler ecoVoyager Concept. The ecoVoyager Concept appears to be a series hybrid, much like the Chevy Volt or Ford Airstream Concept, that uses a lithium-ion battery pack for jaunts of 40 miles or less and a hydrogen fuel-cell range extender to reach distances up to 300 miles away. Power is expected to be in the range of 200 kW total, which Chrysler claims is good for reach 60 mph in around eight seconds. The exterior features an extreme cab forward design creating an arch profile with flowing character lines coming from the front and back that intersect on the sides. The interior design is described as being like a luxury jet, though no images of the concept's innards have been released yet. We'll have to wait until we meet the ecoVoyager Concept in person come January to tell you more, but for now gaze upon Chrysler's first of three concepts that's slated for introduction on the biggest stage of the year.

A rock can be compared to a Cadillac. A Millenia can not. +1 Rock.

Chrysler is now Terry Schivo. Still blinking and twitching but otherwise gone.

install it to a different directory and yes. I just upgraded mine because I'm a dare-devil like that.

your add-ins won't work yet though. It's been stable for me and doesn't seem to have the memory management problems FF2 has. Get your fix here.

You're the exact reason Buick needs to be fixed quick. There is no reason that Cadillac can't be the MB and BMW competition and Buick can be the soft Lexus and Lincoln competition. The DTS, Town Car, Lucerne, ES, and to a degree Avalon and LS460, prove there is a market for these kind of cars. I've driven a V6 Lucerne a few times and if I were in the market for a new daily driver I would serious consider it over a new CTS. Don't get me wrong, I like my CTS, but the Lucerne is a lot less "hyper".... and given where and when and how I drive, the Lucerne would be a much more comfortable whip. GM needs to show Lexus you can't out Buick, Buick.

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endorsements bought and paid for? The CTS is not a leader in it's segment only if you define it's segment as 6-cylinder Civic sized cars.

Sorry, I don't buy Sony.

I'll bet the G8 will be expected to out handle the 3-er because they share a price point also.

your sig says it.

agreed but man, we really gotta get you a better camera ...

No. Not while we're still getting articles like the one about the Sequoia <best SUV EVAR!!11!!> which pretty much humps the thing and dismisses it's past. While also getting reviews of the GMT-900 SUVs that call them gas hogging dinosaurs... <butreallygooddinosaurs> and harping on GM for selling them at a profit.... as if Toyota would take a loss on each one. Even with the CTS, and I've been fighting this fight here, there is the expectation that a 5-er sized car should handle like a 3-er simply because it shares a price point.... and somehow, better than 5-er but not quite 3-er handling, makes it less of a car.

If the car has the same size, same power, same handling, same equipment, same or greater level of luxury interior, but is 7k less, how is that a different segment?

It's very simple. To get a 5 series with the same equipment as a loaded CTS, you'd have to be 7k more.

lol @ using my pre-crash name... but yes.... someone finally gets what I'm sayin!

Pedestrian impact regs. The hood has to be higher up off the engine.

w00t! :cheering: :cheering: :cheering: :cheering:

See, I'm not against this being FWD with AWD optional.... mostly because I think it would make a better business case for GM

Real race cars don't have fenders.

you're really starting to turn into a "can't do" old crank ya know...

so refresh it to look like your sig and bring it up here.... it doesn't have to come here looking like that. It's obviously due for a refresh even in the mexican market.