Drew Dowdell

I have socialistic tenancies for businesses that end up being natural monopolies.... utilities, some areas of transportation, those sorts of things. I also tend to not like market consolidation and would like to put stronger limits on mergers and acquisitions. So, we'll just have to agree to disagree there.

The LaCross obviously has the ES directly in it's crosshairs.

that's just the lexus cars. the lexus trucks are also down 5.4%

w00t! 531 views!

Sorry, I'd go with a Cobalt, Malibu, or Impala over a Vibe, G6, or GrandPrix.

Ok... that's two. Ute makes 3 if you count it as a separate model. Point is, Pontiac is a lot closer to irrelevance now than Olds was when it died.

HHR owners seem to love their cars and tell everyone they know about them. Someone I know just had her 100k mile Silleoett totaled and is now HHR shopping because two of her co-workers have been raving about theirs.

actually the Honda humper did that as a slight against the STS.

3.6 and 3.6DI and LS-whatever. yeah, they're done. oh yea... and a 3800 series III

See this is where I disagree and am probably going to get shouted down for it. At the end of it's life, Oldsmobile had much more relevant product in terms of it's stated mission than Pontiac does now in terms if it's stated mission. Oldsmobile was supposed to be understated yet classy in the price segment each vehicle occupied. In that regard, Olds succeeded. Other than Solstice, where is the "Driving Excitement" at Pontiac?

I live on eating straw man arguments.

wtf, the CTS and malibu aren't a good enough start? yes, this was a very ouch month because fleet sales are down. I much rather have unprofitable fleet sales down while Enclave, Acadia, CTS, and Malibu sell close to sticker. Don't care about market share as long as the company is profitable and keeps putting out product as good or better than the recent releases. Keep doing that and market share will be back on it's own as Toyota keeps shooting itself in the foot and Chrysler meets a timely demise.

yes but Acura meant to put that there...... Cadillac just had a picture of a blank center stack and played darts with it.

not a fan of the colors, but I'm sure you there are other schemes available that would look hot.

ah yes... because round knobs and rectangle buttons are hideous.....

Not even close...

and TL.... oopps.. same car.

I'm sooo gonna post bomb this thread.

ugh... I'm tired of it already. What the hell is taking so long? There is nothing technologically new about this car... it's not like they have to wait for batteries to be developed or something. The engines and transmissions are already done, the basic platform is done, just build it already so I can go back to ignoring it.

Interesting that this coincides with the departure of one regular in particular.....

My old avatar: O'rly?

sounds like you could use another mod....

much more of this and I'm going to be up to brookville in the wee hours of the morning in the Intervention Avalanche.

definitely worthy of the SS badge