Drew Dowdell

ZOMG! GM! UR TEH WURST EVAR

In response to F-O-G: Pontiac should consist of: Vibe - same as now Solstice, Solstice Coupe - Alpha SWB Tempest Sedan/Coup/Hatch - Alpha SWB - G5 replacement Grand Am sedan, coupe, convertible, wagon - Alpha LWB - G6 replacement G8 gets shipped over to Chevy to be sold as the Impala, produced on same line as Camaro. Sold in sedan, truck, and wagon configurations. Buick should consist of: Skylark - EPII SWB, definately quiet tuned and built for comfort over speed. Invicta - EPII LWB, basically the coming LaCrosse Park Ave - Zeta Enclave - keep the current one, why mess with success GMC would consist of: Everything now except Acadia That should fill out the Pontiac/Buick/GMC showrooms with very little overlap. Saturn: Just lift the best sellers from the Opel lineup and sell them here. Drop the SKY and Outlook Cadillac: CLR - Alpha SWB coupe and roadster, think SKY that has been reworked appropriately for Cadillac. BTS - Alpha SWB sedan CTS - same as now, add hard top convertible STS - SWB Zeta DTS - LWB Zeta SRX - coming one will sell even if it's not our tastes Escalade - just keep it, add diesels Saab: Set a low reserve and "Buy it Now" price on Ebay.

OMG TEH PUSHRODS R TEH SUXORZ!!@!12!@!!!!ELEVENDY!!!!!!

I understood <correct me if I'm wrong> that one of the big dings against Kappa was it's relatively limited platform sharing flexibility. Chevy *definitely* should have gotten the Nomad concept.

I wouldn't be surprised. Disappointed, yes. Surprised, no.

The one I posted is exactly like my first car.

We've always had lots of A-bodies around. Ciera and Centuries mostly, Celebrities and 6000s not so much.

Well the original '66-'67 Toro was intended to have stylistic nods to the Cord. The reason being that the Cord was the last semi-successful attempt at a FWD car. The broad horizontal grill, the pop up headlights, the front "fins" that were supposed to invoke imagery of pontoon fenders. Someone who didn't know better might see those three pictures above and think they were 1930s, 1960s, and 1980s versions of the same car.

See, I like the Toronado best because it's a much more quiet, elegant, and cleaner design than the Eldorados. The El-Dogs, especially ones with the Biarritz grills, look like the automotive equivalent of guy wearing too many gold chains and rings. The 4100 kills any chance of me ever owning one. I'd take the 350 diesel first. I like the Riviera's but they seem a bit soft and fem to me, and I'm not a big fan of the interior. I am a big fan of Art Deco design and the Toronado <and early 80s 98s> are the closest you got to Deco in the 80s. And I'm surprised you aren't aware of the styling inspiration for this car 68....

Well, not being beaten with an ugly stick should help.

You're treadin on thin ice there pantherboy! That'd be like me callin your '68 uuuh-gleee.

How hard is it to purchase a canadian car and bring it to the states anyway?

All of my preparations for Europe have left me ill-prepared to make a sudden purchase such as this.

Zipcar has been buying Volvo S40s as their "premium" offering in their car sharing service. I've been meaning to try out the one we just got here in Pittsburgh. I wonder if Zipcar counts towards fleet totals.... I'd imagine they do.

The 3.4 DOHC Cutlass has something like this also. The Alternator is only accessible by removing the front right wheel and they had some venting solution in place to cool it.

E-bodys, any division, 79-85

And if the styling direction at Acura continues to mirror Studebaker.....

The TL looks basically like the old one but with a big chrome shield on the front. The styling exercises that Acura is doing now are dubious at best and fatal at worst. The new vehicles look too much like the old ones with lots of bling tacked on. My '54/'55 Studebaker update comparison stands. The CTS is already selling very well even in a severely slumping economy.

Those are car based trucks with a cap.

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This will have a much harder time standing up to the new CTS than the old one could to the old CTS. The new CTS has improved dramatically and has upped the style quotient. The TL "update" is the modern interpretation of this update of yore: 1954 1955

I have no idea what that was about... someone found a left over stamping from the 50s maybe? That was just like my first car. Only difference was I had the "classic" grill on the front and no sunroof. Mine had the same stainless steel "pin stripe" and the addition of a fake b-pillar <held on with a clip at the top and single screw at the bottom.

Just to be clear: Digital displays/heads up on a Honda or BMW = way cool Digital displays/heads up on a GM = lame. just because.

This is what I want right here.... color is right, options are right. Exactly perfect. 1985 Toronado Caliente

Thanks Balthy. My Buick 455 over Rocket 455 was a completely made up scenario just to give an example of the situation I was looking for.