Drew Dowdell

I like when people get all snobbish about cars and say they'll only buy something German..... like a Saab.

durka durka mohammed jihadI'm assuming this whole story had comical intentions.

Post-natal abortion?

Really? Sorry, I was blinded by the distinctive Toyota design.

Looks very previous generation Lexus GS

Towel for Mr. Panther!

fixed. I now have 4, count them 4 stand mixers. One from each major manufacturer. Oster, Kitchen Aid, Sunbeam, and Cuisinart. 2 blenders. 3 food processors. A bread machine - actually use this weekly. A deep fryer 2 waffle irons - 1 belgian, 1 "standard" 3 different sizes of crock pots. More wine/champaign/martini glasses than the number of people who can actually fit in the house. I've completely lost count of the number of ornate bundt cake pans and even mini bundt cake pans we have...... and of course, the Sweda Sandwich Maker This is what happens when two gay men who are good cooks move in together......

first I've heard.... and I just turned one in with 46,000 miles on it.

vacuum cleaner = turbine turbine smooth = BMW inline 6 ..... Profit!

They're made of plastic, it'll float. not a good boat anchor.

well a lot of the devaluation comes from the huge run up of debt this country has taken on while simultaneously printing more money to pay for the debt. The number of dollars in circulation has doubled since Bush took office.

I work for a company that trades in these commodities and they don't even see the reasoning for it. Edit: other than dollar devaluation.

I'd probably end up at Ford but they don't do anything that excites me. It's just where I'd land. I do however admire Honda.

I thought this was a thread about UPS declaring bankruptcy or something.....

Oh don't get your pants in a twist.... ..wait.... are you wearing any?

time frame? time frame? time frame?

This has to be sooner than 2010 to be that far along in development.... unless they're releasing it in Feb '09 as a 2010.

Don't forget the coupons for discount oil changes, free car washes and a cappuccino so the technician can slip a TSB under the hood.

*sigh*... it'll never be as good as BMW because it has pushrods, doesn't have 22.7 surround sound, 93 way power adjustable seats with power reach around.....</sarcasm>

Great looking proportions. edit: It's this far along and it's a 2010?!

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

I know. That bit about a zeta hybrid jumped out at me. Haven't we been told that zetas are getting canceled due to fuel economy concerns?

After reading this thread 1. Civic Hybrid 2. Civic 3. Fusion/Milan 4. G6 4 Cylinder Sedan 5. Mazda 5 6. Vibe 7. CPO Alero - 4 cylinder gets 34mpg highway easily, and with the $11,000 you'd save over a new car, you can buy something else. The Subarus are nice but the AWD kills the gas mileage pretty severely.

If you can have a 350hp turbo V6 Camaro in a lighter body rather than a 400hp V8 Camaro in a heavier body, wouldn't you want the lighter vehicle?