Drew Dowdell

He doesn't seem to keep his cars long enough to require major repairs... and with that mileage, it maybe was a CPO.

That sounds like a sweet deal on the A8L!

I had that image on a t-shirt and I got screamed at by my high school bitch of an English teacher. Everyone hated her.

Nearly no one uses the SAE interior measurements

@mkaresh has done the research on this. There is no industry standard for measuring interior room. Ford manipulated theirs to the point that he had to just automatically subtract 2 inches from leg room measurements to get something accurate.

Numbers lie... even Cadillac numbers. The CT5 does not feel as roomy inside as a 5-series. All of this aside here's what Cadillac is doing. I can get into a CT5-V (not Blackwing) for $47,695. With that I get a 350 HP V6 and a nice leather interior while over at Benz I'm stuck in a C300 with plastic seats, measly 255hp turbo 4 for the same price. That is a very easy decision to make.

As @balthazar likes to point out, people don't go shopping with their tape measures. All it has to do is meet or beat the expected roominess for the price. People pick a price range first and then see what vehicles they can find in that range, they don't pick a wheelbase and work backwards. There's not going to be much, if any, 5-series/CT5 cross shopping with a $20k spread in base price.

Outside length doesn't tell the whole story. The CT5 doesn't feel as roomy inside as a 5-series and that's intentional. Cadillac is positioning the CT5 more against the 3-series / C-Class and it feels like it inside. It's base price is $36,895 while the base 3-series is $41,250, so think of the CT5 as a much roomier 3-series competitor which can get a V8 while the 3-series can't. The CT4 competes with the A-Class/CLA and 2-series Grand Coupe (stupid stoooopid name) . (Cadillac - $32,995 / A-Class - $37,435 / 2-Series GC - $35,700) and is easily the roomiest and most powerful of all of them. Sadly, Cadillac isn't making a sedan in the 5-series size any longer. They should have kept the CT6 in production.

I clearly have been away too long and the inmates have been running the asylum. I have absolutely had it with the bickering on this site about political crap and bigotry. My tolerance for such bull crap is down to 2% and the battery light is flashing. I am -->this close<-- to pulling the plug on the whole site because of all of the people who bring non-car dramatic crap onto my car website and can't even show an ounce of human decency towards each other and other human beings. Talk about cars.... that's it! I am watching. To anyone who would bring political or bigoted crap to my website, I have a message from the Romulans for you...

C/D clearly made a clerical error if they think a vehicle with an extra 1,000 is going 0.1 seconds slower using the same engine/transmission. You are right though about the size. The CT5 is slightly larger than a 3-series, but noticeably smaller than a 5-series... they don't really line up against each other well. The CT4 is meant to compete with the A-Class and the Alpha chassis can easily outhandle the MB and BMW Front Drivers. The ATS-V blew away the CLA45 on the track easily.

For everyone.

The Cadillac EVs will likely cost more than Teslas at the start. The first EVs are supposed to be flag ships, there’s not going to be a Model 3 or Model Y competitor right away. I trust Cadillac SuperCruise more than Tesla AutoPilot. It’s safer.

Batteries are getting cheaper, smaller, and lighter too.

It will take time, but in a model-generation or two, the costs of building BEVs will come crashing down as @ocnblu's worst fears materialize. No longer will there be unique powertrain combinations. Every manufacturer will have two electric motors, small and large, and possibly one Large+ for anything from a Vette to a 3500HD. And with that, there will no longer be any reason to have a different motor in a Vette compared to a 3500HD. The personality of the motor can be controlled 100% by programming, but otherwise be physically identical. Want a Corvette race tune in your Yukon Denali? That's just a download at your Local Buick-GMC dealer. Power outputs of the motors can be programmatically controlled too. Did you buy a Trax with the base power setup, but 3 years later you got a big raise and want to upgrade it? Put your credit card info into the Chevy MyLink and it will download the unlock key to upgrade your power. Now here is where it the economies of scale kick in: GM currently manufactures a 1.0T, 1.2T, 1.3T, 1.4T, 1.5T, 1.6T, 1.8T, 2.0T, 2.5, 2.7T, 3.0T, 3.0 Pushrod, 3.6, 3.6T, 4.0T, 5.3, 6.2, 6.6,..... with multiple variants of those and I'm sure more that I missed. Even in terms of just gasoline engines, that is absolutely insane that GM does that. With the "small" electric motor, they could build everything from 2.5 down (in HP) to have a single part number for the powertrain. The 2.0T on up to the 5.3 could have a second part number. The 6.2 and up could have the third part number. I don't even have time to count up the number of transmissions that go with that list. So that means a GMC Acadia and Chevy Trax could have the same motor part number, but with changes to the software, have different power outputs. Now, the Acadia has all the same hardware under the hood, no transmission, it becomes significantly more profitable for GM to sell. It's the Encore/Trax scenario on steroids. The Corvette and Escalade and Sierra 3500 and a Box Truck all share the same motor (paging @smk4565). Want AWD? Pop another motor on the other axle. Once they get to this stage of being able to pump out just 3 powertrains to support their entire lineup worldwide, prices for EVs will come crashing down. To infuriate @ocnblueven more, expect companies to start sharing powertrains even more than they do today. I could see Honda and GM in some joint partnership to make motors together such that a CRV and Equinox will have nearly identical parts for motive power. @ocnbluis absolutely correct in where this is going, the only part I don't agree with is his view that it won't happen. From a business perspective, the board rooms at Honda, GM, Ford, Mercedes, Volkswagen are all eyeing up this exact scenario and salivating at it. The only unknown is how long it will take to get there.

The shitty Tesla Model S interior looks worse before you even get to the stat sheet. You'll never get me into a Model S with those interiors even if it had a 1,000 mile range. A Cadillac interior, 300 would be sufficient.

Eh, I think 300 is enough for most people.

I'm referring to cash-flow specifically, but yes. They've survived on selling these credits for a while. But at the same time, Elon needs to know that as GM and FCA-Stellantis start moving to more BEVs, that source of funds is going to dry up and Telsa better be able to stand on its own.

So she might be able to get $8k-$9k out of it depending on its condition. Personally, I'd spend the $1500 to get an aftermarket reman battery put in and then call Carvana to come pick it up. They'll direct deposit the money straight into my checking account. Put the VIN into Carvana's website and lie about the battery status to get an idea on what they'll pay.

That is why all auto makers are looking to reduce BEV costs everywhere.

That's interesting, because when I visit NYC or LA, one of the things I loath most is getting in a beat to crap but still operating Prius V or Escape Hybrid. They take those things right up to their regulated mileage limit and it's not the batteries that kill them. My sister managed to kill her first year Escape Hybrid.... by running it out of oil. Every car has the potential for drivetrain issues. I'm seeing lately how Hyundai/Kia and FCA are having problems with their 2.4s and having to do engine replacements due to catastrophic oil loss. (Yes I know that particular 2.4 is related between all three companies). As for her Pruis, you can get a reconditioned battery for like $900 plus install. If the car doesn't have over 200k miles, it would be worth it to pay for the replacement and then just sell it for a few grand. Even a 175k mile Pruis is worth about $5k and a 100k can fetch $12k - $15k. So throwing away as much as $15k to save $1,500 doesn't seem to make much financial sense to me. And no car company is trying to shed the planned obsolescence. They've gone exactly the opposite direction even on regular ICE cars. Honda and Toyota are just as guilty of it as GM and Ford. Ford, when asked what the upgrade path was for owners with Sync who wanted to go to Sync3, the direct quote from the executive was "Buy a new car...". But batteries aren't going to be what kills high mileage EVs, just like it isn't what kills high mileage Hybrids. When I needed to repair the cruise control for my CR-V, all I needed was the small plastic disk the cruise linkage would tug on, but the only way to get the replacement part from Honda was buying the entire throttle body for about $800. I ended up fixing it with a Dremel and some zipties instead.

That wasn't what I was saying at all. You (and likely he) have preconceived notions regarding EVs and will dream up as many reasons for why they won't work for you as @Davidcan dream up reasons why he can't fit in the front seat of something. What I was saying was that if you wrote down his primary wishes in a vehicle (Good git'up, good economy, good reliability), an EV Equinox would suit his needs just fine. A 1.5T mid-range Equinox is just one QuietTuning away from being a sensory deprivation chamber as it is. Listening to that 1.5 making the sausage is not an experience improvement.

Your brother is exactly the type of consumer that, baring outside influences, would probably be suited to an EV just fine once cost and charging station network is addressed. I agree with you on the difference between the 1.5T and 2.0T, night and day... the 2.0T will easily break the front tires loose. And it's not hate... it's facing the reality of where the market is today. I knew when I bought my Avalanche I was most likely buying my last V8 ever, which is why I want to keep it forever. I may get one more round of ICEs in my driveway, but eventually I'll convert Albert first and then me (though the Avalanche will stay). I've never had the urge to shift my own gears, but I can and do appriciate the novelty of it. I just don't see it as a requirement for my day to day driving. My commute to work is already infuriating enough, 45 minutes to go 12 miles, that shifting manually would add no joy to the drive. The only thing I would point out as contrary to what you said is your insinuation that EVs can't leap off the line... they can and do. Not every EV is a Nissan Leaf. It wasn't the 2.0T that killed it for him, it was the bouncy ride. I told him that the 3.6 would be more to his liking as he drives a V6 Liberty now, but the ride is what killed it. He works from his car and also does trips home to NYC. He needs something more comfortable for being in all day. He's also very tall, so that's what killed the Bronco Sport for him. His dream car is the Defender, but that isn't in his budget right now. He likes the boxy look of his Liberty and is attracted to the Flex... so who knows what he'll end up with. I've found some MINT Ecoboost Flex Limiteds for him with like 15k miles for about $27k. If they pipe sound in for the 2.0T, I certainly didn't hear it. It was me who hated the sound. He hated the turbo-lag and lack of "Go!". I didn't drive it, but I'm sure I'd have hated it to. I have no patience for turbo-lag any longer.

With few exceptions, the majority of cars on the road have no excitement anymore. You think 350k Camry and another 400k RAV4 buyers a year care about their car making "vroom-vroom" noises from that oh so meaty 2.5 liter 4-cylinder? I went with my best friend to test drive some cars.... we looked at a 2-door Jeep Wrangler 2.0T, a Bronco Sport 2.0T, a 4-Runner (didn't like, didn't drive), and a Ford Flex. He hated the sound and feel of the 2.0Ts and really liked the V6 in the Flex.... why? because the Flex was quiet and had a lot of torque (not how he described the torque, but I knew what he meant). And that's what most people actually want... something not noisy, but still has instant low end torque. Price aside, I could get Albert a Model S Plaid+, plug it in for him for a few hours every Sunday, and functionally it would be no different than now when I take his 300C to Costco every Sunday to put gas in it. He'd never notice the difference. There are those of us who like the sound of an engine revving, but we are in an extreme minority. As soon as EVs come down in price relative to income and charging stations are wide spread, ICEs will become a niche vehicle. People just don't care. If they did, the Camry/Accord 4-cylinders would not have been best sellers for so many years. The Equinox/Terrain combo is something like the 6th or 7th best selling vehicle in the US right now and I'll tell you no one wants to hear that awful 1.5T doing its job. GM did a pretty good job at silencing it. You may not like it, but these are the factors that GM is working with.

That’s been known for years.

I still wonder how dealerships like that survived with like 5 cars in inventory.