Drew Dowdell

Current RBOB daily futures for gasoline are now down to 3.1245. If that holds, that puts regular at about $3.60 a gallon at the pump. October futures are 3.0041 and Novembers are 3.0250 which means about $3.50 at the pump. Everything on the wholesale market so far today has been trending down between 6 and 7 cents a gallon. There will likely be rapid drops at the pumps in the coming weeks barring any additional hurricane activity.

You're right, I did forget America's hat.

It's not just the Canadian dollar, it's Euros and Yen as well. Since oil is priced in dollars when the dollar is weaker, the price for oil, in dollars, increases. If the dollar were wear it was 3 years ago, we'd be in the mid to high $90 range right now.

Dug the book out of my library for you. Some examples of the process it describes: Development of the plants/production lines Financial forming of the company Story's of the early promotional stunts. Many many advertisments. Maps of the Lansing Olds Motor Works Details of Old's war efforts Very detailed writeup of Kettering and the development of the Rocket Writeups of the non-autmotive related employees of Olds light writeup of the automatic transmission Detailed writeup of the development of the Toronado and FWD. Strangely detailed writeup of the air suspension in the 1958s. Writeup of the development of the Quad-4

Sadly. Oldsmobile never made a DOHC/5-speed/Convertible combination. The 5-speeds were Coupe and Sedan only.

Rented a 1998 in 1998. With 3,000 miles on the clock it stalled out in a Florida toll booth and wouldn't start again for a few minutes.

While not completely what you want, "Setting the Pace", the story behind Oldsmobile, talks about many of those individual parts of development, but spreads it over multiple vehicles.

Not knowing exactly what you're talking about.

It's not bad as a get around town car... but the 3.1 was a slug in the regular coupe, I can't imagine what'd it'd be like in the heavier convertible. The convertibles with the DOHC V6 would please all except the most diehard of RWD fans on this forum.

Choosing a Panther over a B-body because the age of the frame is like choosing Richard Simmons over Liberace because he's manlier.

Really? He seemed fairly impressed with that new fangled Stanley Steamer.

Obama's fly new ride.

Any hybrid vehicle "study" that frames ROI in terms of time rather than distance @ cost per gallon is bunk. The best comparison is cost per mile @ N price per gallon

I'm not sure whether to ban you for sheer cheesiness or not.....

ZOMG!!! NO complaints about not having 33.7 surround sound?! No complaints about how it won't out handle the M5 wagon? <because we both know that all wagon drivers commute on the Nurgbergring> Not a peep about the lack of 75 way power seats with power reach around?! As for the D-pillar, they really just took the C-pillar and shoved it back.

Perfect! If you hate it, then it will likely do well against the ES350... which is it's target market.

I think our host hasn't fully recovered from the lightning strike earlier this week. I've seen them reboot the entire server at least twice now. We've started getting weird error messages in the server logs. I know one of the reboots was to fix an Apache <webservice> error and the error messages in the logs started after that. I'm keeping an eye on it, but I don't think it's anything to do with our database or website.

Go back and look at an '04 CTS. It's just a softening of that. If you're talking about the flat surface just around the wheel wells, BMW cribbed that from the '66 Toronado

Oh yeah, and it'd be the first car of mine to ever do 30mpg or better on the highway..... granted highway is 45mph.... but still!

Camino, I may need your help with this one. It's out your way anyway.

Where are you seeing 3-series again? I also think you should wait for better pictures before barfing. This is what, the 2nd or 3rd time you've barfed in a post today? Any more of that and I'm sending you to the hospital for bulimia.

I haven't left yet.... but I was only planning on going for 2 -3 years anyway

I've never been a big fan of the Camaro, but damn that's hot!

Man... I wish all those Subaru, Volkswagen, Volvo, and Saab owners would finally clear their broken down cars off the side of the highways...... These are cars that run with turbos every single day. They individually may have issues, but has anyone heard of even anecdotal evidence of wide spread turbo issues on these cars? We're not talking '83 Lebaron or Mustang SVOs here.

SCHWING!!!! I can't wait to tour around Europe in one of those!