Drew Dowdell

oh the mental picture I just got.....

Hmmm. Have a Western PA/Eastern PA/NJ based service and offer cars from both ends of the state for an additional fee.

Those things are hideous! I can see why it hasn't sold

68, that's nice, but not a limo.

Well, the idea was to build a fleet of these old beasts. I don't have the money/time to do this right now anyway, this is mostly just open dreaming. I would have taken you up on the Lincoln though. Edit: It's what I plan to do in a few years once I'm back from Germany.

Rules: 1. Must be $60k or less. 2. Must be "unique" in some way without being tacky. i.e. no Towncars turned into Bentleys, no 300c given "jet doors". 3. B-Bodies acceptable for routine service if cheap and in great shape. 4. Older than 1990 preferred unless very unique or of an interesting premium brand. 1937 Buick 90 Limousine 1965 Cadillac Fleetwood Limousine 1969 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow with Chevy 350 1954 Packard Limo

in the land of make believe.....

Gasoline futures down 5 cents Crude down 3.55

if there ever was to be proof that Holden's days were numbered.....

I'm going to start a thread called "SMK being blatantly wrong or maliciously deceptive" and start moving your posts in there. Saab Aero 2.8 turbo has 280hp and 295 ft/lbs of torque compared to the Camry V6 that gets 268 hp and 248 ft/lbs of torque while having to lug around 400 more lbs. The 9-5 Aero has 8 less horsepower than the Camry but it has 10 more ft/lbs of torque in a 4-cylinder at an absurdly low 1900rpm. The Camry's peak torque hits at 4700 rpm.

We don't care. The Super is not about being the fastest. It never was and never will be. The Super gets you from point a to point b at a brisk pace silently, smoothly, and handsomely. Super's motto is, "It's not how fast you get there, but how good the going is." No Super owner is going to be drag racing someone who feels inadequate in their Accord.

This thread is about the Super.

I understand, I'm favoring ultimate comfort over all else.

Not as quiet, not as smooth, not as roomy, not as ergonomic

I can't think of a modern, reasonably priced car, that I'd rather take a long road trip in over the Lucerne.

When you've done something before, you know how to do it again. E90s are not clean sheet designs.

Sunday morning... it's beautiful out. Perfect time for an pwning. The previous 3-Series was on the E46 starting for the 1998 model year. The coupe and wagon followed a year later and the M another year after that. Total years for the E46 in production was 1998 - 2006. 8 years on a single platform. The basic body shells of sedan, coupe, convertible, and wagon were already available for BMW to work with when they started the E90 program. This is what Balthy is pointing out. The previous CTS began in 2002 and lasted till 2007 as just a sedan on the Sigma platform. In 2008, the CTS moved to the improved and enlarged Sigma II platform that was based on the already improved STS variant of Sigma I. Two years after the introduction of the sedan, brand new coupe and wagon variants will be introduced. Cadillac had no prior shells to base these on and had to develop them from scratch. So, Balthy is right, Cadillac is currently moving faster than BMW in it's platform development.

Alfa Romeo It was 8:40 in the morning and I hadn't had my tea yet.

I would hope, for his sake, that it's grown a bit since then.

the longer I work in a cube farm, the more I realize it is a documentary.

but.. but.... I believe you have my stapler? I can do that impression with disturbing accuracy.

As much as we'd like to, we really can't blame that on Germany.

Mobil 1 and you can realistically double your oil change interval.

If it's a light hurricane season, inventories will be much greater than expected and the market is likely to over react in the downward direction.