Drew Dowdell

So, you're more pissed at the guy who is friends with the foxes than the guy who was paid to pick the lock on the hen house and let the foxes in....... got it. edit: Oh yeah, and this was the 3rd time the foxes got in and ate all the chickens.

Rizzo? wouldn't have been able to do any of it without the deregulation John McCain and Phil Gramm provided. It wasn't millionaires* getting the sub-prime loans btw. Gramm promptly retired at the end of his term and became a well paid lobbyist for one of the banks that helped write the legislation. *Mostly... I'm sure you can find a few who did.... but millionaires aren't generally defined as "sub-prime". The buddy-loans were mostly sweet deals at low interest rates, not mortgages made on fraudulent data to people unable to repay.

BUT BUT!!!!! THAT"S SOCIALISM!!!@#!@!! **SPUTTER** *SPITTLE*** We're privatizing the gains and socializing the losses. This is the biggest robbery of the American public ever orchestrated.

Some even use lies to try and accelerate themselves.

Dragon Naturally Speaking It's like $350.... surely a man with 7.... 9..... 11? houses can afford it.

Thanks to McCain for what? All he did was say "+1" when Bush proposed it.

Uhm...if you haven't been paying attention, we just socialized the two biggest mortgage companies, the two remaining investment banks, and the worlds largest insurance company.

You know that there are now website up just to keep track of the lies McCain and Palin are passing out... right?

Considering Fannie and Freddie both got where they are today because of John McCain and pals, I can understand they may be less willing to donate to McCain.

Well.. to be more specific, they're looking into if "naked" short selling should be illegal. Naked short selling (for those who don't know) is the practice of selling a stock short without first borrowing the shares or ensuring that the shares can be borrowed as is done in a conventional short sale. When the seller does not then obtain the shares within the required time frame, the result is known as a "fail to deliver". However, the transaction generally continues to sit open until the shares are acquired by the seller or the seller's broker, allowing a trade to occur when the order is filled. It's the process of selling something you don't have. And yes, it's the lack of regulation. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley act allowed conflicts of interest to evolve. Please read this whole article carefully. It shows John McCain at the heart of the S&L Crisis, Keating 5, Enron, and todays mess.

Oh nooo! Someone who was CEO in the 90s of a company that is failing today got a cheap loan from a buddy!

Uhm.... this is based on what exactly? The idea that "most" small business owners make over $250,000 a year is laughable at best.

I'd like to point out that the crisis we're in is not one of liquidity but on of solvency. If you're Lehman Bros./etc and you've already lost so much money that you're insolvent, you're not going to be paying any taxes anyway. A tax cut won't help you. The only way to stop this mess is to stop the foreclosures in the middle and lower classes. Once that shows signs of stabilizing, the pressure will come off the banks. Lowering the taxes on the middle and lower class will help them to better be able to pay their mortgage, thus the rich investors will get a return on their money. The rich will have to wait a few cycles, but they'll eventually get the money anyway.

Don't even have a car anymore.....

He's basing it on an incorrect assumption because he was fooled by percentages. The rich have gotten richer while the poor <and middle class> have gotten poorer. Tax brackets have adjusted upwards but wages have been stagnant or deflating.

Protectionism? Like trillions of dollars in bailouts? Or maybe Obama is getting a bounce because Americans realize that McCain was part of the deregulation that helped cause this mess in the first place... and that McCain has the author of the deregulation bill as his economic advisor. Actually, I'm more inclined to believe that the dip in that graph was McCain's bounce and now things are returning back to the statistical "norm". Palin's luster is wearing off substantially as she's gone from a +17 favorable rating to a -1 favorable rating in just 7 days.

All GM has to do is take the Malibu and add what it learned from the CTS.

Forgive me Reg, but where are you seeing the cheap interior plastic?

In what way can't Buick not be in the same league as the ES or MKS? This is a LOT more car than a Camry XLE or Avalon. ES and Avalon are Camry based, MKZ is Fusion based, MKS is Taurus based.

Now that's what I call a bounce!

1,000,000 plug in hybrids on the road by 2015 shouldn't be difficult at all. If GM, Honda, Ford, and Toyota each produce 100,000 per year, they'd hit the mark in 2.5 years. There are plenty of people who want to buy plug in hybrids, they may not be members of this board, but they're out there. Remember, not everyone is a car enthusiast.

Ricer, that was one of the very last things the Hoover administration did after trying to cut taxes to start the economy. Did you just admit, an provide proof, that raising taxes during a down economy won't hurt the economy at all? I believe that Obama will responsibly withdraw us from Iraq and allow us to cut the 1/2 trillion we're spending there every year. McCain's tax cuts are irresponsible and will get the country further in debt.

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As for your response to my sig. I'm not "hoping" for a better economy. I just know that a president who willingly admits to know nothing about the economy, introduces a tax plan to prove it, and has the scorn of Warren Buffett, Alan Greenspan, and Ron Paul over economic issues is NOT going to help the economy. Consider this, if McCain's ideas are "bold leadership", that means Herbert Hoover was a visionary.

I wish I could make some of this text blink for you so you'll see it. From Barack's website: "Eliminate Our Current Imports from the Middle East and Venezuela within 10 Years * Increase Fuel Economy Standards. - Obama and Biden will increase fuel economy standards 4 percent per year while providing $4 billion for domestic automakers to retool their manufacturing facilities in America to produce these vehicles. * Get 1 Million Plug-In Hybrid Cars on the Road by 2015. These vehicles can get up to 150 miles per gallon. Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe we should work to ensure these cars are built here in America, instead of factories overseas. * Create a New $7,000 Tax Credit for Purchasing Advanced Vehicles. * Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard. - Obama and Biden will establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard (LCFS) to reduce the carbon in our fuels 10 percent by 2020. Obama and Biden will also require 60 billion gallons of advanced biofuels to be phased into our fuel supply by 2030. *A “Use it or Lose It” Approach to Existing Oil and Gas Leases. - Obama and Biden will require oil companies to develop the 68 million acres of land (over 40 million of which are offshore) which they have already leased and are not drilling on. *Promote the Responsible Domestic Production of Oil and Natural Gas. - An Obama-Biden administration will establish a process for early identification of any infrastructure obstacles/shortages or possible federal permitting process delays to drilling in the Bakken Shale formation, the Barnett shale formation, and the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska. " ----------------------------------- The man drove a 300C until very recently when he bought a token hybrid. He's not going to take away your "real" car.