Drew Dowdell

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You need to explain why. 1. We've debunked your "not a citizen" claim. 2. "Pals around with terrorists" - served on a board with a former, washed up terrorist 3. "Supports voter registration fraud with ACORN" - no he doesn't. Every suspect voter registration form that ACORN notices is flagged and sent to the SoS for verification. Even if a few rogue acorns registered Micky Mouse, will Mickey show up to vote? I think not. Voter registration fraud is a red herring. So... what else scares you about him?

I used to be at least open to the idea of McCain. His actions over the past 24 months have soured me to him. He has become a hypocrite, dishonest, and dishonorable. John McCain of 2000 I could have voted for.

1. McCain's Spend and Spend policy will put this country in an even worse position. Run away inflation with a plumeting dollar will be the cause. When Warren Buffet and Paul Volker (the guy who really ended Stagflation, not Reagan) support Obama's economic policies.... I'm going to err on the side of Paul and Warren. Who does McCain have as an economic adviser? Phil Gramm... the guy who engineered the law that helped make this financial mess possible. 2. Clinton tax rates didn't "spread the wealth". Returning to them won't either. 3. The next President, regardless of who it is, will be tested in the first 6 months. Obama's calm, cool, thoughtful, character is who I want at the helm. Not someone who is going to jerk the wheel right for no good reason.

I was impressed with him when he spoke at the 2004 convention. His calmness is a wonderful relief from the "ZOMG!!@ TEERORITSSS ARE GONNA KILZ US ALL!", "ZOMG!@!!! REGULATION IS GOINA KILZ US ALL!", "ZOMG!!!!@#! ......" mentality of the Bush admin. As I've said before, if McCain of 2000 were running, I would have a difficult choice. It would have been a difficult choice in 2000 if it were McCain v. Gore. His actions since then have been erratic and against just about every core principle he claims to possess. What is so scary about him? I mean, is he going to eat your kitteh or something? Worst case scenario is he raises taxes and tries to negotiate a peace with Iran through diplomatic means. The Ayers thing is a non-starter. The ACORN thing is a non-starter. Even if a few rogue ACORNS registered Mickey Mouse.... do you really think Mickey is going to show up to vote? I shall. I'll subscribe to this thread and we can revisit it in 4 years.

Please read what I posted already. It is NOT big because it is NOT true. Fact check first, post second.

and it was a good thing too.... George Bush was submitting people like his cleaning lady Harriet Miers and other politically motivated appointees. I think that Obama will rate an appointee on terms of competence and ability rather than loyalty to himself. Considering John McCain's "mavericky" pick of Palin.... I'd shudder to see whom he'd pick for the courts. Fact check first, post second. "When productivity was measured by the hour rather than by the total number of hours worked, however, Norway, an oil nation, was the most productive, followed by the United States and France, the organization said in a report released over the weekend and published every two years. It mostly used 2006 data." I most certainly can. If the point is about taxes and "socialism". Look at what the higher taxes the Europeans have pay for. Deutche bahn is PROFITABLE! I can link you to death on the high speed rail thing if you want, but suffice it to say that any medium haul flight could be replaced with high speed rail and will have lower costs, better efficiency, better environmental impact, and sometimes even faster trips. I'm happy to start a new thread with you on this one if you want. Just know what you'll be getting into. A healthier population costs less and is more productive. There will be an initial spike in costs, but then things would settle down.

What year? I hear the '03s are a bitch, but they got everything sorted out by '04. I had no trouble with mine either other than a flaky sunroof dial replaced very very early in the car's life.

Joe the Chair.

Or not..... All of the hubbub around Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy was about the wealthy getting a larger percentage tax cut than every one else. 1. Obama will not be able to change the make up of the court at all. He'll replace liberal justices with liberal justices. 2. Those protections to privacy and equality.... does that cover abortions and gay marriage... or is it just privacy for conservative causes? Europeans on the whole, have better transportation infrastructure, better telecommunications, better/cheaper healthcare, better education, healthier populations, while at the same time having equal productivity and a healthier work life balance. We have.... richer CEOs. I suggest you look into the German healthcare system. It isn't perfect, but it's pretty good and costs a lot less than ours. "Although the government regulates the process, it is administered by myriad health insurance providers and is financed chiefly by a combination of employer and employee contributions.[citation needed] The government also subsidizes the cost of Statutory Health Insurance for the unemployed.[citation needed] It partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers, whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for private insurance, which is generally more expensive, but whose price may vary based on the individual's health status." Consider that this could also replace medicare/medicaid. It would fall right in line with Obama's "Do more, more efficiently, with less" mantra.

SRsly? In the event McCain croaks, you think Palin would run the country better?

It had nothing to do with their product. It was all just market manipulation.

ignoring a crackpot != hiding

I like a proportionally short deck lid with a proportionally long hood. Thusly: This is something I would consider out of proportion.

Fact check first. Post second.

U.S.S.R. - The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) was a constitutionally socialist state that existed in Eurasia from 1922 to 1991. This doesn't answer my question. If we are returning to Clinton era tax rates, does that mean we were socialist for 8 years and didn't know it? Has nothing to do with what I asked. One: I don't understand the fear of socialism. Sweden isn't exactly a bad place. Two: Clinton era tax rates + healthcare + middle class tax cuts != socialism it just doesn't add up. Perhaps a name change from "Universal Healthcare" to something like POLR Healthcare would ease your mind a bit. Obama's plan is NOT universal healthcare. POLR is a term we use in the energy industry that stands for Provider Of Last Resort. If you currently have healthcare, nothing will change for you. You keep your plan. If you lose your job, you default back to a basic plan that will cover you in emergencies. Keep in mind that we have a backdoor version of this today. If someone poor gets very sick and is admitted to the ER, you pay the cost in higher hospital bills and insurance rates. Obama's plan is not socialized medicine. It's a provider of last resort insurance plan when you can't get insurance any other way. Edit: The Germans have a similar setup to Obama's plan. In Germany, health insurance is mandatory. Employers offer coverage, but you're free to choose any plan you like. There is also a basic federal plan that you can default to. The complaint the Germans have is that healthcare is NOT universal. If you're rich, you can afford more insurance and thus more expensive procedures. Edit II: If that doesn't ease your mind. Here is the link to the Soviet national anthem so you can practice for January 20th.

Had the McCain of 2000 been running this would have been a difficult decision for me. The disrespectful, mudslinging, and incoherence McCain has run his campaign with not only cost him my potential vote but also the respect I had for the man. Pandering to the neo-con right wing with Palin when I KNOW he doesn't believe most of the thing she is spouting adds hypocrisy and dishonesty to the list. He had his chance.... he blew it.

Could you imagine blacks in 1964 voting for Byrd?

Please. I'm asking in the nicest way possible, explain your reasoning behind this belief. Just justify the statement. I really need to know how 36.5% tax under Bush isn't socialism, but the 39.5% we had under Clinton will have people singing the Soviet National anthem.

And what SMK thinks is what dictates the market. You mean like this? I also like the KMart LCD you get if you don't buy the Navi. The Enclave doesn't look as big as a Tahoe. Given the sales statistics, I'd say there is a lot of cross shopping going on.

Tell us why the Enclave isn't luxury? Price and ability to circle the nurburgring are not factors.

I'm no Hillary fan but Hillary would kick Sarah's ass all the way back to Alaska.

The Enclave starts there, but transaction prices are much higher. Buick had the opposite problem with the Enclave as Cadillac had with the SRX. This time, there aren't enough high end models.

One week till I say auf wiedersehen.

damn, am I really that asleep?