Drew Dowdell

3-series down 42% for November and down 19% ytd...... interesting... interesting.

Behold the power of the interwebs...

or it rusted off....

Hyundai pays their workers in bags of rice I can pick up at Costco for $15.

How about this. I think this is it.

still no

How old are you? Really?

Still no.... the rear of the trunk is too square.

Hmmm

Disagree. The c-pillar is too upright. 1965 Impala

Olds 88?

Well then you did something wrong because the prices you pulled are either wrong or purposely selective. +1 on the Lambda-lanche.

In 2000? The Eighty Eight had Aurora badges. It's a trick question because there was no 2000 Eighty Eight and 2000 was the body style switchover for the LeSabre However, in 1999, Eighty Eight could come with a supercharger and LeSabre came with Dramamine..... *dramatic voice* STANDARD!

That's the botox

He is delusional because he'll maintain that if only the CTS-V/Lucerne/Impala/Whatever had DOHC instead of pushrod, they'd finally be able to sell them... yet at the same time, Olds had a nearly entire lineup of DOHC goodness, and still the 3800 is still here and the 3.5 and 4.0 are gone. He is delusional because the prices he quoted are entirely wrong.

Not sure where you're getting your numbers, but yet again, you're wrong: Silverado LTZ is $42k Sierra Denali is $43k - can be optioned up into the low 50s. Base MSRP for the Colorado work truck is $15,085 Base MSRP for the Canyon work truck is $15,085 Top trim for the Colorado starts at $26,940 Top trim for the Canyon starts at $30,005 Tahoe Base MSRP: $34,630 - $50,900 Yukan Base MSRP: $35,345 - $52,630 Suburban 1500 Base MSRP: $38,085 - $52,960 Yukon XL 1500 Base MSRP: $38,915 - $55,435 Suburban 2500 Base MSRP: $39,495 - $47,840 Yukon XL 2500 Base MSRP: $40,335 - $50,025

Powertrain mule? What's with the f-ed up exhaust?

Of all the divisions out there, they are the most "badge job".

Truck buyers are a fickle lot. The costs associated with badging GMC are probably the least of any division. If GMC lets GM sell trucks to people who wouldn't buy Chevies, and at a higher price point, then I'm all for it. What do you think they've been since at least 1947?

You're still full of it. People can't get financing to buy a $30k car. The G8 is an unknown. The Lucerne and all the rest you mentioned have name equity where the G8 does not. If GM is a fault for anything, it's this. Had the G8 been named Bonneville and marketed...like.. at all... G8 would do much better. Every review of the G8 mentions the weight and then says you never notice it. So there goes your idea. It's a credit/finance thing. Unfortunately the G8 will suffer solely because of a bad economy.

BMW and Mercedes can't even blow the CTS out of the water. Honda and Toyota can't blow the Malibu out of the water. ..... yet you expect GM to blow itself out of the water?

EVERYONE was down in November! A wise man predicted to me that in this thread you'd say "Just wait till the 2010 M5 comes out!" Well guess what, the 2010 M5 will still be down a lot of power compared to the CTS-V and GM hasn't even dialed up the boost yet. Edit: And Cadillac proves that you don't need to spend $87k to have the best. BMW puts a LOT of money into making super high tech engines.... well guess what.. they still came up short. The CTS-V is simpler AND faster.

Personally, I think the sale/killing of Saturn is the least likely part of this whole plan.

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Patrick Stewart's version of Christmas Carol. Simply the best.