Drew Dowdell

fixed that for ya

All that for only $1,000 over the 1975 base MSRP!

It's also fairly low on power. A 310 hp Lincoln Navigator? Really?

I'm not even suggesting that the TwinDualCam was the best engine on the market. I'm just saying that it was 10 - 15 years ahead of the imports in performance. I had a TDC in my Cutlass it ran great. I had the timing belt start to go right around it's scheduled replacement time and had it fixed prior to it snapping. The alternator went out twice but the second time was due to a faulty replacement job (the first replacement alternator didn't have the heat venting replaced during the install). I could easily light up the front tires in 1st and chirp them up to 3rd.

GM may have half assed the TwinCam V6, but that engine was years ahead of anything the Japanese and VW were doing. The Twincam was 215hp in 1990, Honda didn't break the 200hp barrier till 2004 and didn't beat the Twincam's 215 torque until 2008. Toyota and VW didn't get around to it till 2004 and 2006 respectively. Even Nissan's much vaunted VQ V6 took 10 years to overcome the Twincam in power. So, yea the alternator and spark plugs are a bit tough to change, but the Twincam had it's benefits also.

Due to the site issues, I'm going to extend the deadline for this to November 31.

It requires a small ad on. I'm holding off on adding anything new to the board until the server issues have been put to bed.

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I don't know about the 3.5DOHC, but the 3.4DOHC was flippin huge! It took up the so much of the engine bay that the engine had to be disconnected from the dogbone and rotated forward to access the rear spark plugs. This is the same engine bay GM was later able to fit a 5.3 litre pushrod V8 in.

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The 3.4 DOHC was replaced by the 3.5 from Oldsmobile. In fact, since 1990, there was only one year, 1996, where you couldn't get a DOHC V6 from GM.

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They didn't abandon it. They detuned it so it wouldn't destroy the transmissions. The 3.4DOHC we got was a detuned version of that motor.

GM had DOHC V6es in mainstream cars as far back as 1990... ya know, before Toyota and Honda offered them. Do you not think that GM's decision to move away from pushrods in the V6 stemmed from the near constant harping about the 3800 being a terrible engine <which it's not> in the press? The automotive press as a whole compares EVERYTHING to the freaking M3 as if it were the only car worthy of existence. Look at all the reviews bashing the Lucerne's "unrefined" powertrain.... my time with the Lucerne was quite satisfying. It did everything I asked it to do, silently, with authority, and returned 31mpg highway. In the driver seat there is no way you could tell if the powertrain was refined or not because you couldn't flipping hear it. I've also driven an Avalon.... there was nothing remarkable about the engine that would make me pick the Avalon over the Lucerne...... and that was even before we got to anything like looks. The power differences are a non-starter for me because it isn't great enough to matter in this kind of car. I'm not challenging Lutz to a race at Monticello, I'm getting to Columbus at a steady 75mph.

Why is it that the Corvette beating out cars twice it's price doesn't count if it doesn't have DOHC?

SMK is repeatedly posting false statements that aren't opinions despite being politely corrected in the past. He is entitled to his opinions. He is not entitled to his own facts. Purposely posting false statements repeatedly is trolling.

As a mod, I can't ignore anyone unfortunately.

Buell is dead.

No, his points aren't valid. There are no benefits to having a pushrod 4-cylinder over a OHC 4-cylinder, there are benefits to having a pushrod V8 over an OHC V8. Thus his point, which he repeats often, is invalid. GM's V6 pushrods aren't inadaquate because they are pushrods, they are inadequate because they've had relatively zero development dollars thrown at them compared to the HF series. SMK repeatedly fails to understand that a DOHC and a pushrod of equal displacement will not have equal external dimensions. SMK fails to understand that you will not be able to fit a 6.3 litre DOHC V8 into the space that a 6.3 litre pushrod just barely fits in. Yet he continues to state this as true. The CTS-V and Corvette do use a pushrod to smack around vehicles way out of their price class . This has been very publicly demonstrated. Bringing the Koenigsegg into the discussion is just trolling. The Koenigsegg is over $500k. GM could outfit a Corvette with a Pratt & Whitney and still have it cost less. If the factory 638hp of the ZR-1 isn't fast enough for you, Lingenfelter will happily sell you an upgrade to about 680hp for roughly $3k. So no.. it's not just differences of opinion. He's trolling by repeatedly posting information he knows to be false. Everyone here is entitled to their own opinion.... however you're not entitled to your own facts.

I've had my eye on the Yamaha Roadliner for a while.

Mmmmmmm Regal 2.0t + GM Performance Turbo =