Drew Dowdell

one flaw in your story..... edit that for ya...

7 years response time it light speed for Toyota

Yes. "Mom" wants a practical car. "Dad" who thinks of himself as an "enthusiast" and had a Camaro when he was 18 want's something with power so he can get his 3 second thrill flooring it on the highway on a Saturday afternoon. The only way "Dad" will get any is if Mom gets the practical CamCordima... thus the "need" for a 270hp Camry/Accord/Altima. In reality, "Mom" would be just fine with the 4-cylinder and wouldn't even drive it more than 6/10ths. There are 20 FWD cars for every RWD car because even though women are only 50% of the market, they control somewhere around 90% of household purchases. The high power front drivers are ultimately compromises to appease the real power in the market.

And the only ones that get positive press are the ones that have lots of power. Thus the 270hp Accords and Camrys. There's the "less of a man" implication that goes with 4-cylinders.

No, not really. Look at all the hubub over the Lacrosse having the 3.0 or even the Ecotec... as if every vehicle needs CTS-V like 0-60 times in every trim. I'm wondering what the 3.0's real world mpg numbers will be like . I'm driving a 3.0 powered Equinox right now and on the highway I'm seeing 28mpg instead of the EPA rating of 25mpg. Where Carbiz is going with this is how the enthusiast media (outside of Consumer Reports) insists that a car is crap unless it's nurburgring ready. For 90% of drivers a 4 cylinder Lacrosse would be more than competent. Watch for the articles bashing it. Is it really necessary for every beige Camry to have 270hp?

why?

Added category"Domestic Independents" Added forum "Fisker" Added forum "Tesla" What am I missing?

Moved "Project Phoenix", "The Chevelle Project", and "Operation Arrowhead" to "C&G Design Studio" Removed "Cheers and Gears Skunkworks"

Moved "Saab" back to "The GM Family"

Added "The Chrysler Family" and "Dodge", "Chrysler", "Jeep" Should I add "Ram" now or later?

fixed that up there for ya....

see: http://www.ford.eu/

So here's what happened.... Apparently he was in an accident. He must have hit a pole or something, the front end of the car was smashed in. He managed to drive the car home and get it in the garage. Apparently there was a fuel leak and the garage filled with gas fumes A spark caused a flash fire that lasted about 5 seconds, but completely deprived the garage of oxygen. They found him in the car.

I had it turned off for performance reasons, it's back now.

What a way to start a holiday..... I got word this morning that an old friend of mine was killed in an accident at home. I don't know the entire details. He is survived by his partner of 12+ years. What I'm thankful for, more than anything else, is the love and devotion from my partner Albert. Through the most trying of times he is there with me ready to do whatever needs to be done to get through... and he deserves a lot of credit for putting up with a grump like me. I hope you all have a great Thanksgiving holiday. I plan on laying low the rest of the week. Try not to fight too much.

Saturn/Pontiac/Saab/Hummer..... there's an entire lineup right there... prepackaged and waiting for an investor.

Koenigsegg Group AB Terminates Agreement For Purchase of Saab DETROIT -- General Motors confirmed today that the proposed sale of its Saab subsidiary to Koenigsegg Group AB was terminated at the discretion of the buyer. Discussion: Koenigsegg Group AB Terminates Agreement For Purchase of Saab

Koenigsegg Group AB Terminates Agreement For Purchase of Saab DETROIT -- General Motors confirmed today that the proposed sale of its Saab subsidiary to Koenigsegg Group AB was terminated at the discretion of the buyer. "We're obviously very disappointed with the decision to pull out of the Saab purchase," said GM President and CEO, Fritz Henderson. "Many have worked tirelessly over the past several months to create a sustainable plan for the future of Saab by selling the brand and its manufacturing interests to Koenigsegg Group AB. Given the sudden change in direction, we will take the next several days to assess the situation and will advise on the next steps next week."

More Updates from the Opel Drama GM pays back Germany; signals fewer job cuts MUNICH -- General Motors Co. has paid back a loan from Germany and slightly lowered its target for job cuts at struggling European unit Opel. Opel's Bochum plant is safe, GM Europe boss says MUNICH -- Opel's plant in Bochum, Germany, will make future products and continue to play an important role in General Motors' European manufacturing network, GM Europe boss Nick Reilly said today. Spain sees no more than 900 job cuts at Opel plant MADRID (Reuters) -- Spain's industry minister said after meeting with a top General Motors Co. executive that no more jobs would be cut at a GM Opel plant near Zaragoza than previously agreed with former prospective buyer Magna International Inc. Led by Astra, Opel's October production rises 77% MUNICH -- The big European production winner in October was Opel/Vauxhall. Led by a strong increase in Astra output, Opel/Vauxhall's production rose 77 percent to 87,246 units, according to J.D. Power Automotive Forecasting.

I like the side profiles of all of them except the 6-er. Looks fugly and dated.

And the teeth kicking will end here. Everyone should consider this their first verbal warning.

Well, I think the keyword here is "conventional". The b-pillar is hidden behind the glass.

The thing is, I can totally see GM doing a version like the one MDM did already for the '87-'89 model, but the contest is for the '79 - '85 model.

My dad's is pushing 200k miles. Just had it's first breakdown.... a broken distributor rotor....

Taking an 2010 Equinox V6 courtesy of GM to DC for a big fat italian thanksgiving.