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Your POSTS are MORE "terrible and depressing". :wink:

Is that a Nova/Toyota, or another Chevy/Toyota? Edit- it's a different Chevota. The Nova wasn't around at that time..... 1987 Chevy Nova. Where's the SS stripes? LOL

Hahahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU bought an AZTEC? HahahahHAHAHAHA And you say I'M the one "smoking something? LOL I must be smoking something because I described the Caravans of past as you did- I'll take a look at the 2008 Caravan when one comes out in a dealership here to see what they are REALLY like. Your description such as a vehicle is either a great driving piece of art OR a "dump truck" doesn't interest me... :wink: An Aztec. LOL And you talk about other vehicles with that keyboard....

Price "ISN'T" always the 100% issue? LOL Isn't that what I said? It's the PACKAGE?

I still haven't seen ONE. Anywhere! Never before have I wanted to look at a new vehicle that I have absolutely NO interest in whatsoever. I wanna see what one looks like in person just because of what's been written in these threads. LOL!!!!!!! I think they look "conservative" in their styling from what pictures I have seen, I wanna see what regfootball thinks is "pop bottle plastic" as far as interiors go.... :wink: They look nice for minivan interiors in the pictures as far as I can see.

You've "beaten alot of people in your truck", and it's a full size with a non-performance 305?Define "beaten".... :wink:

Who the heck designed that dustbuster van? Somebody's gotta pay for that! :wink:

Hahaha The donk would actually be better as individual pieces. Put them together and it's horrendous in an exciting way! LOL The color is nice, the top is nice, the wheels are nice, and some flares and a RR grill and combine them, and VOILA! What do you have now......

Where are you people finding 08 minivans to evaluate? I went by TWO dealerships today, they both said they weren't released yet....

I don't think people buy minivans on LOOKS. I think they buy them as the whole PACKAGE. Which includes PRICE!

The service manager was awesome! He let me know I have a "faulty transmission assembly". LOL!!!!! I will get a new tranny and converter, I asked what parts actually went bad, he said when the tranny gets in and I can make an appointment to get it swapped out he "should" be able to tell me what went wrong, but I talked to two of the mechanics and I have a feeling the tranny won't even be opened up... More waiting!

Take a look inside a BMW M4 Coupe, my buddy just bought one. PACKED FULL OF PLASTIC INSIDE. Now, is the BMW plastic "rich opulent" plastic, or can it also be called "Fisher Price" plastic..? Don't believe me? GO LOOK! We owned a short wheelbase Caravan, the 2nd and 3rd row seating wasn't bad at all. I'm over 6 feet, my buddy who drove with us everywhere (a diehard OLDER Chevy guy) is 6'4" and 300 pounds, he never complained. Ours wasn't a leather interior, so I'm not sure, maybe our cloth was "substandard" in your books too? *confused* Entry and egress was excellent. What specific areas are you possibly talking about? If I was to COMPLAIN about our van I would do the complaints that were HONEST. The windows in the rear passenger doors didn't open. I'm not a fan of passenger windows that can't open. Many Caravans have "phantom wipe". That's the turn signal stalk, we never had it. The A/C systems are 5 year wonders, after that start looking at repairing parts. Evaps, pumps etc. High mileage Caravans can have problems with the IPC. The van will start but die after a few seconds. It won't run despite trying to restart until it has sat. It's fairly common. Fuel pumps and cam and crank sensors are replaced with no results. The gauges actually cease to function which nobody seems to care about as the vehicle will not run. The back of the IPC is the fault. The top of the dash can be removed and the rear plug removed and reinstalled firmly, which will cure it. (Actually, banging on the top of the dash will also start the van. Now THAT is quality! LOL) Replacing the IPC is the proper fix though. Our 3.3 Caravan Sport had WAYYYYYY more power than our friend's 3.8 Caravan AWD. It drove WAYYYYY better too. We also got better gas mileage. Same goes for my friend's 3.0 Mitsu- which coincidentally had valve guide issues. (I'm not a Mitsu engine lover). If you want to COMPLAIN about Caravans do it with knowledge. Not broad smears that don't really hold water. In my opinion anyways...... (I already gave you "the gears" part) LOL

Nope.Tell that to the Pontiac Aztec. It wasn't the INTERIOR that made or broke the Aztec. The OUTSIDE is the first impression. If INTERIORS sold cars, I'm willing to bet the original Volkswagen Beetle would have gone under in a few months. The Caravans are (and have been) an overall appealing package to the average mom. They look decent, nothing flashy. They drive nice, like a car, and are very useful. Decent gas mileage. Lots of seating. That's why boatloads of Chrysler Caravans have sold over the years. Good overall packages SELL, and the Chrysler minivan offerings have sold in abundance. It doesn't matter if a few people have radically biased assessments or not, the PUBLIC will buy what the PUBLIC likes. And they have.

Wow. You posted your OPINION on something in the Chrysler forum instead of your... "usual"... :wink: I think people mistake the Chrysler minivans of the late 80's early 90's transmission troubles for late 90s, or current etc... The truly bad Chrysler minivan trannys were addressed in the 92 and up Caravans, and it took a couple years before it was actually successful. The 1996 to 2000 Caravans drove great. The base models drove like base models, but they still drove VERY car like. The 2001 and up drove BETTER. I think to truly appreciate the 1996 and up Caravans one should drive a 1996 and up Chevy Astro van. The difference is absolutely ENORMOUS. No comparison at all. The Caravan doesn't drive like a top of the line BMW, but it sure as heck doesn't come close to resembling " a dump truck or a school bus". That's a truly moronic statement. :wink: The Chrysler minivans are great "bang for the buck" in the minivan segment, and their sales reflect that. If it's hard for guys like regfootball to acknowledge that, then so be it.....

The new style Dakota and Durango were "restyle" mistakes. BOTH looked better before their current versions came out. The Nitro isn't terrible, but reminds me a bit of an H3 "wanna be" type truck. I wouldn't cut it until slaes fell off obviously. The Aspen I would keep over the Durango, they are nice trucks, just need some SRT versions and more economical driver versions IMO. The Commander isn't great to look at IMO either, but the Jeeps are Jeeps. A facelift would end the looks drawback for me, and there is a Jeep under the skin. :wink: The compass is like a "compact SUV", and it should be the way of the future- LIGHTER and SMALLER SUVs. Not big gas guzzling useless monsters. The Magnum isn't an "SUV", not sure why it's in this thread. As long as the LX platform is made (or LY) it won't need to go anywhere.

Ours was a Caravan "Sport", bigger wheels and brakes etc. It handled alot like a car, I wonder if the comparison was done with a regular base model Caravan or a Caravan Sport....?

I think regfootball must be paid for his propaganda...? :wink: Our 1997 Caravan was the LAST vehicle I wanted to look at, and I sure didn't want to buy one at the time... but after owning one for many years the Chrysler minivans are VERY hard to get out of. Reliable as hell and more useful than I could have imagined, ours was excellent to drive and got great gas mileage, especially on the highway. I never liked the Chrysler minivans until I OWNED ONE, and after driving it for years I was impressed. Not at the opulence of a top end luxury car's interior, not of a race bred sports car's performance, but of a package used for what it was intended. Some people just don't "get it". Right reg? LOL

Yeah, with such classically ignorant posts such as.... LOL How many people on the internet show their brains in such kind of posts? :wink: I don't mind the Challenger, but I won't buy one. I think it will appeal to the younger crowd, the same crowd who probably won't have enough money to BUY one. Makes me wonder...... The Mustang will continue to be the pony car to beat, it's a nice AFFORDABLE car. If the Camaro and Challenger can match the Mustang's prices right from a base model on up they will be hugely successful, but I have a strong feeling that AIN'T gonna happen.

The blue in the first pic in this thread is gawd-awful, and GM has a TON of nicer colors to pull chips from. That Cobalt looks like a pastel blue. Yack, capital Y.

I'll have to refrain from saying what I think of it too. I'm definitely NOT a fan of that dash. *shrugs*

NO WARRANTY? WOW, that's not very good!

My Demon had a 440 and nitrous, and the plates were NOT vanity plates. They were regular plates that read JCE 440 (Juice 440)

Hahahaha See? It has the same layout as a new Caravan with the center stack, yet nobody cries about it outside the "Other Guys" forum... :wink: LOL What's the warranty? I'm pretty sure it isn't "THE" best offered nowadays.... lifetime drivetrain warranties and 10 year warranties etc....?

They remind me of the originals- 1984 - 1991 or whatever they were. "Retro" minivans...? I haven't seen one in person anywhere yet.

Oh, I agree! lol