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I don't find the new Malibu very attractive at all, inside or out, front or back. The G8 for sure is nice, the Malibu, not so much.

I realize you guys couldn't give credit where a pentastar is on the fender, it's like pulling teeth out of an alligator on this forum. I still wonder, what do you think of the "1999 Charger" concept car? It's almost 10 years old now as far as design goes, but it would STILL sell like hotcakes on looks alone IMO..?

Of COURSE!!!!!!! LOL

Well, the "Sportwagon" obviously saw a Dodge Magnum in the design stages.... the "innovative roof opening" (LOL) as well as the interior layout, the rear covered parcel area, the basic dash layout etc..... all sure look familiar. Sorry guys, can't deny it can you? That said, I think it's a GREAT looking vehicle. It's a Holden version of a Dodge Magnum, and it will be tremendously popular if it ever comes out IMO. I think it's funny reg says he likes the interior. LOL (BTW reg- we have a factory power moonroof AND a rear DVD player) Great looking inside and out. Great stuff.

You are near Seattle?Here, this is fairly local to you, and I can find a Seattle meet you can attend, maybe meet up at S.I.R. with a bunch of Lucerne/Avalon enthusiasts and do a Lucerne/Avalon vs MoPar LX meet. Are you in? You MUST be able to find a ton of Lucerne/Avalon enthusiasts willing to meet weekly and travel for a meet, right? Post a response when and where you want to meet, I'll post it on a few LX forums and we can try to get the Lucerne/Avalon enthusiasts out, cruising and running at the track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I see LX meets everywhere, here's one near you. Can you post some Lucerne/Avalon meet videos so I can have a look? Check this one out! LOL Look at the 58/59 second mark in the video........

Dodge dealers wouldn't give you 25 cents for your Aztec. You can look at them at the dealership, but move along! LOL

Good news! My wife bought a Magnum that does NOT have "cabin claustrophobia", and it doesn't have a "dreadful interior". It seats 5 comfortably- I'm not small, my best friend who is a diehard Chevy fan is 6'4" and 300 pounds, he loves it, and with the heated leather seats, dual climate control, rear DVD player, power everything and tremendous amounts of comfort it leaves me thinking maybe you should buy a Magnum from the dealership we bought my wife's car at. It's a car almost completely opposite of what you post! LOL

He isn't the only "delusional" poster.... Here's a pic from a local LX cruise about a month ago, it made the TV news, papers etc. They happen all over, all the time, give me your area and I can give you the closest location so you can attend a "delusional" LX weekly gathering and meet some of the "delusional" owners who love their family sedans as much as Corvette/Viper/Mustang owners love thier cars.... LX cars are VERY popular today, maybe more than ever. They have a HUGE following. And the owners don't feel the need to insult other brand cars I find. Which I kinda like. :AH-HA_wink:

I think some of them are just trying their best to bust balls for various reasons. :AH-HA_wink: Take what they post with a grain of salt.

And the Aurora was "dumped" in 2003 because IT "admittedly adds nothing" to the Oldsmobile brand too? Right? The Aurora was dropped was it not ??? Strange, I've driven MANY Durangos, for long trips too, never was it "jerky, disconnected and unsteady". Did you drive one during an earthquake? Was the earthquake a 6+ on the richter scale? Actually, if you actually READ what I posted- I compare the Sebring to ANY vehcile GM puts out in the same class and find the Sebring much more attractive to own than what you attempt to portray. It's not a Bentley, but compared to a Sunfire/Cavalier it's close.... :AH-HA_wink: LOL You keep trying to smear a label on the Sebring. GM cars in the same price range don't have opulent interiors either. Have a look at the new Malibu interior and try to judge it with the same standards you apply to the brands that aggravate you. Maybe you are pregnant? Is this comment automotive related, or just silly? Chrysler has luxury cars, mini vans, family sedans etc. It is a car MAKE as well, and has higher trim level vehicles as well as lower trim level vehicles. Ummm..... I'm not a big fan of the Compass. Where you get an impression I'm a fan I'll never know...

I would like the Hornet if the rear window opening shape was changed as far as looks go, and the Demon looks OK, but needs a little more massaging if you ask me- the lines seem like they are trying a little too hard.... I think the Hornet could look better than the Caliber with little effort though..

Huh? My wife is middle aged, has kids (and a spouse) and she is a soccer mom. She controls the checkbook, and she bought a Dodge Magnum R/T, which she loves. She also bought aftermarket "bling" wheels for it, as well as a couple other things, which SHE picked out. She's even looking at an aftermarket hood. Where is your theory now reg? LOL Are you guys a comedy act or what? Informative, not usually, but ENTERTAINING, you are second to none!

LOL Get yer nose outta his hose! :AH-HA_wink:

"Attack on your car? LOL I asked if somebody applied the same nonsensical comments to your Aurora I wondered how you would react. Reread. Where is there an "attack", except your futile attempts at insulting other brand cars. Again. :AH-HA_wink: That's your opinion, and not one based on your actually DRIVING an Aspen, as you admit you haven't. So basically it's a baseless opinion, is it not? That you also say you "don't need to drive one" tells me your opinions are based on perception of something you know nothing about. You judge it, but have never driven it. I compare it to affordable GM vehicles of any kind in the same class. That's exactly what I said. And the Sebrings are NOT intended to be luxury cars. They aren't priced like a top end luxury car and don't perform like a top end luxury car. It ain't rocket science IMO. To me that's exactly what it is. I see Raven likes his, he has people admiring his. I would assume Raven, who OWNS AND DRIVES a Sebring would have a more informed vision of what the Sebring is truly like. Have you ever driven a Sebring? Ever? Chrysler is an upscale vehicle, but not a top of the line vehicle USUALLY. The base Chryslers are no better (or worse) than the Buicks or Oldsmobiles of past/present. They were upscale to the Chevrolet division supposedly, were they not supposed to be? :AH-HA_wink: Most likely that WILL happen IMO. Those changes would require a higher prcietag to go along with the upgrades however. The press release is a PRESS RELEASE. It doesn't say what you claimed, it says "rally car toughness". Which basically mean NOTHING. It's advertising, it's meant to imply the vehicle is tough, not opulent, it doesn't say ""it was supposed to be - a cheap, semi-credible rallye-esque car with a non-crummy interior."" anywhere. Where is the interior reference? It is supposed to be a "rallye-esque" car, and rallye cars don't have 20 speaker stereos and connolly leather... So if my opinion differs from yours I "must work for Chrysler"? LOL Good thing I think there are too many Jeep models! LOL I think EVERY manufacturer has too many SUVs and too many overlapping lines of vehicles. Why not exploit them with rich luxurious Compasses too? *fails to see the connection between outdoor loving jeep enthusiasts and opulent interiored luxury vehicles* I guess if a Jeep is meant for off road fun and rallye races I just think the high quality pile carpeting *might* get a little dirty in the mud races..?

Some of our local dealerships WON'T sell the high impact color cars, or just take deposits on them, they use them to draw people into the showrooms. The one I posted a pic of above is a car with just that history, it was used to draw people into the dealership, and the owner of the car is a salesman that works at that dealership. He sold it to himself! LOL They still get the traffic draw at the dealership, and he gets the car he fell in love with!

I'm pretty sure the high impact colored Chargers are numbered cars of limited quantity. There is a local guy to you who owns a killer green Daytona....

Exactly. Jeep should be doing what Jeep does best, and that does not include building "upscale" luxury vehicles. They carved a niche for themselves, and should stay true to it, or reasonably anyways.

Most insightful while intelligent post in this thread IMO.

If someone posted that the Olds Aurora was "a joke" and "added nothing but laughter to the Oldsmobile brand" you would probably just roll your eyes at the comment. Would you not? The Aspen is actually a very nice vehicle, my friend owns one, and the interior is VERYYY nice, it drives nice, and it looks good IMO. The Aurora does absolutely nothing for me whatsoever, so I guess it's a "to each his own" situation, once again. DRIVE an Aspen. That's my suggestion. The media has claimed domestic cars in general are a joke. Do I care what the media prints? LOL NOOO, I care what I buy that sits in my driveway. The Sunfire/Cavalier were jokes for over a decade, people still bought them. I would take a Sebring LONG before a Sunfire/Cavalier, or many other GMs for that matter. I've driven one, they aren't luxury cars, but they aren't sold as luxury cars. They aren't sports cars, but they aren't sold as sports cars. They are decent daily drivers. If making derogatory comments about them somehow makes the cars in YOUR driveway appear better to you, then who am I to comment? :AH-HA_wink: LOL Post a link to where you found what cars and trucks "were supposed to be made into". LOL The Compass isn't good looking IMO. The interior of most Jeeps throughout history have never been opulent, more VERY spartan for sure. Why would you possibly think a Jeep that is inexpensive would have an expensive interior? I just shake my head at this forum sometimes, it's like you guys all had girlfriends stolen by Chrysler drivers in the past, and now you feel the need to release your whining anger on the vehicles on the internet. LOL Why??? Cred is a word kids use. Look, that shiznit has street cred! LOL Alot of other forums have more unbiased views of "cred" than this one when it regards brands other than what a few of you dream about at night. Did you see the latest statistics in the other C&G thread where Chrysler came out ahead of GM and GM actually was the worst of Ford, GM and Chrysler? Any comment on that, or just excuses? :AH-HA_wink:

The C&G crowd is typically hilarious.... from reg (as always usual) on down the line...... The Dakota will never sell until it's LOOKS are addressed. The previous version of the Dakota had better appeal. REDESIGN the Dakota, get it back on top with looks and the sales will follow. Durango- see Dakota. The LOOKS are what is lacking, the trucks are decent. Tweak here and there after a complete redesign of the exteriors. Aspen is a nice vehicle. Keep it, and introduce the Phoenix engine into it in 2010. Crossfire needs a styling facelift, it's been around for a few years, people look at stuff that looks fresh. Tweak the 300/Charger/Magnum as needed over the next few years. Maybe add a ute! Challenger needs a V6 offered at a very affordable price, and the 6.4 SRT version with everything in between. It'll do well I'm betting, much to many posters here dismay...... Nitro is a bland SUV, it needs more spice IMO. Too boxy like the fake Hummers (H2 and H3) Sebring needs tweaking, maybe add an SRT version- the Phoenix 4.0 V6 would be a good candidate..? :AH-HA_wink: Dodge Ram, keep on the same track, great trucks, great looks. Again- powertrain options should include the NEW 4.7 and Phoenix engines when they come out. Viper just needs a few tweaks as the years go by, and small increments in power and it will continue to sell and be a brand earner of bragging rights as well... maybe take the 600hp version and toss a blower on it- get the masses on their heels...? LOL Caliber is too Japanese looking for my tastes, but apparently it's priced right because I see them evvvvverywhere. A looks makeover would improve them in my eyes, but they seem to sell...? Jeep Comanche needs a facelift, along with the Compass. Jeeps in general stay on course. Keep the SRT version as the flagship. Overtake Toyota as the number 1 manufacturer and go from there..... LOL

My friend who has the Chrysler 300 SRT8 - his parents just bought a plum crazy purple Charger, they love it.

What's the base price of a standard Camaro, and what is the price for a fully optioned top of the line Camaro?

LOL I looked up, either that guy is a midget or indeed the car is taller now! Looks like shoulder height almost...

The Challenger doesn't offer anything. It isn't out yet..? The Challenger is slated to get the 4.0 V6 Phoenix engine. Have you read up on it? No slouch by any means....

Challenger will have V6 models too. As does the Mustang.