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The next version of the Viper that was INTENDED is not going to happen now. That is NOT made up. The Viper will either be left as is unchanged or it will be different than the ZC-D27 that was originally intended, and as the article states it will probably be a car more competitive with the Vette as far as price goes for the base versions... Nowhere in the article does it say the Viper will be cancelled, just the tongue in cheek headline. Which is where the stupid rumors started from...

The SECOND link is an article referring to your FIRST link, somebody ELSE never read the story through and understood, they merely wrote an article based on what they THOUGHT the article was about, after reading the title of the Jalopnik page. Everybody passes on SPECULATION and RUMOR, and it soon comes out as "fact", which it isn't.

Yeah, I missed them... sorry. OK, I just looked at the links, and there is a SMALL PROBLEM nobody actually seemed to notice.... The Jalopnik site is where the rumors started, but nobody seemed to ACTUALLY READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE! Let me sum it up best by the line in the actual link provided.... *ahem* Nobody seems to READ the actual entire page they post a link to- and in this case it's just an article about what the "masses" THOUGHT about where the Viper is going, the title is tongue in cheeck, and it is NOT meant as people constantly describe. All I can say is READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE. Here's an excerpt for those tooooo lazy.

See how you pick Pontiacs and Buicks, I'm sorta the same way with GM. I liked the Chevys because they were cheap, popular etc... but I liked the Pontiacs and Buicks because to ME they seemed to have more character. I love the old GPs, and I like the boattail Rivs too, overlooked cars in many circles IMO.

Egads!!!!!! Now the B-bodies were copies too? Musta been a Fairlane copy I guess....... :AH-HA_wink: LOL

That's a sentence you would NEVER see me posting. LOL I don't mind the Sky, the Solstice is kinda ugly for me. The Miata and the Solstice are in the same "genre" if you ask me, and it's not something I would be driving, but I'm not the kind of guy to ride on the back of a Harley either.... :AH-HA_wink: Hahahaha (just joking, sort of)

I just hear the roar of our Hemi. Weird. :AH-HA_wink:

ACTUALLY... the 1969 B bodies (Charger, Coronet, SuperBee etc) DID have things in common with the 1970 Challenger. The entire front substructure, suspension etc... I have seen people deny the HHR is a "copy" of the PTCruiser. I have seen people say the 1968 Charger was a copy of the Corvette. Everybody's perceptions will be different. Is the present day Corvette's front end COPIED from the Viper? (10 % or 66.6 % ? :AH-HA_wink: )

I think the opposite way, and by a large margin, since the early 1930's Chrysler Airflow right up until today. No comparison really. Chevy has had more POPULAR looking cars over the years, but for UNIQUE stuff the MoPars were just nuts.

I couldn't agree more, but some people are just never gonna get it, IMO....?

LOL I have never seen an ADMIN troll on his own forum... Too funny! Show me where you figure the Viper is gone in 2011, and I will show you just how wrong you are. Post a link! LOL

I think the actual CAR resale value won't matter as much as the ECONOMY as far as dollar figures go. GM has come a long way with their vehicles, but the times are tough with gas prices and the economy right now, it's a 1-2 hit that's hard to get around....? Tough times to be an automaker for sure.

"Selective" is at each POSTER'S DISCRETION. You obviously know that Ven... :AH-HA_wink: Twisted requires imagination, and it needs to be pointed out to be labelled as "twisted". Point out what you are referring to, I can do the same. It will be fun.

You keep changing your posts! Is the Viper "cancelled" like was posted on Cheers and Gears, or was a blog misinterpretted? You tell me Ven! :AH-HA_wink: Who said there will be ANY domestic auto manufacturer a decade down the road..? Maybe once Hummer is sold (it IS being shopped, isn't it? :AH-HA_wink: ) Jeep might rebadge the Wrangler as a Hummer...? LOL

The strange part is the Solstice is SUPPOSED TO BE an "enthusiast's car". It should have a heckuva better resale than most, should it not? All domestics are going to have resale problems over the next few years I am sure, GM, Ford, and Chrysler. To single one out is silly IMO...

I'm not "defending" Plymouth. LOL Tell me where you jumped to THAT conclusion? LOL!!!! If you look, I'm not gonna suggest YOUR goat is hard to get, it's easy, the only difference is I can stick to logic, and fact. :AH-HA_wink:

I agree. I think Mopars had the weirdest wildest stuff overall. I also think some mainstream Chevys were pretty unique- the 1963 Corvette comes to mind. Nothing like it at all, completely impressive car for the time and while it wasn't rare it was unique among cars at the time. Ford built some unique stuff as well. I'm a DOMESTIC lover, but when it comes to oddball unique stuff, I tip my hat to the MoPars, it's why I love them!

How is Oldsmobile? I can't wait to see a 4 million dollar Camaro, Corvette, etc etc. Forget the entry level daily driver's. LOL What a comparison! C'mannn Ven! :AH-HA_wink: All the domestic bread and butter vehicles are dropping "like rocks". We have a Solstice that is ONE YEAR OLD in our Craigslist with 33% depreciation. LOL Want me to post it? HERE! http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/car/770296936.html Let's hear some clever excuses Ven! ALL domestics have a resale problem, you are just blind to what you don't want to see.

Well, the only reason I truly love old MoPars would be their "cool unique" cars and trucks. Add WEIRD to that as well, weird cars and weird options. I personally thing as far as UNIQUE goes, MoPar has always, and still does take the crown. Chevys have always been more POPULAR styled cars, but unique isn't the right word IMO. The Superbird/Daytonas were unique. They didn't SELL, but they were UNIQUE! :AH-HA_wink: LOL

Same front substructure, amnog other things...

LOL The 69 Cuda was a fastback, notchback or convertible A body car and had nothing to do with the E bodies of 1970. The 1969 Challenger never existed as was revealed above. Neither the Cuda or the Challenger could be claimed to have been copied from the Firebird, neither looks like it in any way shape or form. The Cuda and Challenger in 1970 have similar styling to a 1969 Camaro, but as I find the 1969 Camaro as well as the Cuda/Challenger not bad looking cars, I think it's safe to say the 1969 Camaro could easily have had an influence on the MoPars of the day. I have no idea of knowing for sure, but I would guess the same as you. If they are "low on the originality scale" but sell for huge money right now it sure makes me wonder why the 1969 Camaro with it's famed engines don't seem to draw THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY....? lol

Who do you guys think controls GMAC? LOL CERBERUS!!!!!!!

Yup, and not just automotive!!!

I know, but you'll get the "right crowd" in the other forum.... :AH-HA_wink: LOL!

My brother liked Fieros when they came out. He was in love. Then he DROVE one, and never talked about them again. Not a word of a lie. Sorry BV, I know you like them, but yack!!!!!!