Robert Hall

or really drunk...

Amazing..only 10 E85 in all of Arizona, only 1 in Phoenix...the 4th largest county in the US has 1 E85 station??? WTF???

I've seen her on TV with McCain many times..very scary looking woman, kind of like some sort of alien.

Reminds me of what happened to some friends of mine a couple years ago. They had just bought their first house in an older Denver neighborhood, no garage, so their cars ('00 4 Runner, '02 Focus) were parked on the street in front of their house. One Sunday afternoon, a 14yr old was driving his mom's boyfriend's '80s Cutlass lowrider (supposedly his mom's boyfriend sent the kid to buy beer for the game)...was speeding down a narrow residential street and crashed into 4 parked cars, hitting both of my friends' cars...it hit the 4Runner so hard the rear axle was ripped off and the rear body crunched up...the Focus had the whole left side mashed in, all the glass broken out...the Cutlass ended up on its side on the Focus, on fire.

The interesting factoid is Cadillac DID have exclusivity on GM RWD sedans...the G8 is the first non-Cadillac NA RWD sedan in 12 years...sad..12 years of nothing but FWD for the rest of GM.

The Metro as it was in the '90s was unsafe at any speed...on roads filled with 5000-6000 SUVs and trucks, I wouldn't want to be in a small death trap like that...(or an Aveo either).

I'm sure the numbers vary in area and population group. The Camry owners I know are all software developers in their late 20s to early 40s, several are serial Toyota owners (traded up from Corollas) and several also have other Toyota products like Siennas, 4Runners also.

Bingo..Cadillac probably influenced the decision...they wouldn't want competition from a larger, cheaper V8 Pontiac...this way they get exclusivity on GM RWD sport wagons.

I did the almost 900 mile drive from Denver back to Phoenix yesterday.... I can't recall seeing one unusual car on the trip this time (compared to last weekend when I did the reverse drive). I did see several '08 Malibus and a couple '08 CTSes, though. I was rolling along in the JGC through the starry New Mexico/Arizona night across I-40 and down I-17, fueled by Red Bull and rock 'n' roll (Def Leppard, Led Zeppelin, Bruce Springsteen, AC/DC).

I couldn't avoid loving Mustangs (and early Cougars)...grew up in a family of Mustang fanatics...between my folks and my brother, in the '70s-90s they always had at least 5-6 of 'em around..

As long as Avis is main customer of the G6, that's true. But GM already has plenty of FWD sedans...why not a RWD midsize? And the Torrent is still going to be there, just going to be a GMC Terrain now.

Not getting one. Made too much money last year.

Not necessarily...many move up to a Camry (often from a Corolla) in their late 20s to early 40s... (all the Camry owners I know are in that age range).

I'm thinking within the next two years I'll make a major decision where I want to be longer term geographically and what I want in a house...I like my condo in the Denver 'burbs, this is not the best time to sell (I'm going to rent it out while I'm in Phoenix). I figure I'll live in my sister's house in Phoenix for a while. I like urban genetrified neighborhood places, but I also think about getting a house in the 'burbs so I can have the square footage...I have 1200 sq ft in my condo, but a lot of stuff in storage, and only 1 parking spot. Part of me really wants the 3000-3500 sq ft (w/ basement) little beige tract house in the 'burbs w/ the 3 car garage and the postage stamp yard (which I can afford in the Denver area or in the Phoenix area, and could do even better if I went back to the Pittsburgh or Columbus area)... I figure by June 2010 (40th) I'll have my plans figured out..

Cool...I see they have Bit O' Honey, Mallo Cup, Zagnut, and Zero candy bars...those are some things I miss about small town Ohio (though I have found Zero bars at gas station convenience stores).

Like I said, I'm skeptical when I see a phrase like 'there is not and never will be'. Is he a GM insider? Remember, this is the internet...question everything.

Yes, real 'small towns' that I know of from when I lived in Ohio were 150-2500 people or so, where the nearest city of 50,000 or more was at least 50 miles away...depressing little towns out in the middle of nowhere, places that time had passed by. A few small towns in Ohio that I'm familiar with that are very nice and within major metro areas (but are not really suburbs) are Dublin and Powell in the Columbus area and Hudson in the Akron-Cleveland area. They have the quaint small town feel, but plenty of modern amenities...

I think it's going be a nice, competitive product for Buick. An ES-competitor sedan and an RX-competitor crossover with the Enclave. What's next?

Who knows? They may do a 2.2 version of the 2.0. Do you work for GM Powertrain and have a definitive answer? When someone uses a phrase like 'there is not and never will be' I automatically call BS...

Looks like a nice neighborhood.....with the brick buildings, taco places, wine bars, coffee houses it reminds of some of Denver's neighborhoods...I like the funky neighborhoods that are getting modernized. They way you have talked, I thought you were somewhere way out in the sticks..

When I moved from downtown Denver (LoDo) to the burbs (Greenwood Village) it was like that...The GV (as the locals call it) is basically a group of office parks with some condos and newer houses, and some retail...a mix of chain restaurants, local restaurants, high end shopping, etc... very nice area to live and work... I'm going to miss it, but where I'm living in central Phoenix has a lot of retail, and where I'll be working (N. Scottsdale) has lots of restaurants, etc. I have a friend here in the Denver area (lives in Highlands Ranch, the poster child for suburban spral, was on the cover of National Geographic in the late '90s) moved here from Aliso Viejo..said it was very nice. One trend I saw here in Colorado was old traditional malls being torn down or reconfigured into 'Town Centres'--a mix of condos and pedestrian-friendly street malls...it seems every Denver suburb now has at least one or more of these, and the newer suburbs that are still springing up on the eastern prariare are building them as well...

That reminds me of the Bruce Cockburn song 'If I Had a Rocket Launcher' from 'Stealing Fire'...(love that song)

Yeah, I'm only familiar with regular Mountain Dew and the Red Alert Mountain Dew. Tried a diet Dew once, not bad. I used to drink Mountain Dew all the time, but I've pretty much given up sodas.

That's true...and some of them are over $40k.. has there been any word on when the 9-3 would get redesigned? After 2010?

GM has been the underdog for a looong time..it's like in the last 5 years they have been slowly awakening from a 25 year sleep...25 years of building 'ok' or 'average' cars, but little that was truly competitive... it's taking them a long time to get competitive...hopefully they can succeed.