Robert Hall

36mpg is pathetic for something that small.... what a joke. It really has no place outside of large, congested city inner core areas.

Probably Pontiac w/ the '68 GTO. Plastic bumpers didn't really become wide spread until the late '70s...

Saw a sharp silver blue '70 Monte Carlo, a yellow '68 Chevy pickup, and a black '65 Mustang 2+2 today...

Yes...they seem to be on the path to eliminating model overlap... one thing that hurt GM in the '80s-90s was the endless look-alike generic FWD mediocremobiles that seemed to have no substantive differences across the CBOP brands...they have a come a long way from that.

It's unfortunate where they mounted the plate...the plates ruins the look of the grille...they should have mounted the driving lights higher or encorporated them into the headlight pod and mounted the plate to the side instead.

True...the G8 and Solstice are the only Pontiacs currently that embody a 'Pontiac spirit' and are worthwhile, IMHO..the rest of the line is just rental car filler, IMHO...

I'm guilty of that myself...I've been averaging almost 6 posts a day...got to throttle back and chill.

Apparently the building was leased previously. CNN Money article

I've seen a bunch of the new Sebring convertibles also... in my office building's parking lot, there are a number of convertibles--a Miata, an Eos, 3 Merc SLs (one an AMG SL55), a 3-series, a Sebring, a '68 Camaro RS, a 2000 or so Mustang GT convertible, and 2 current style Mustang convertibles.

That would be a nice lineup... 4 models would be enough...Buick has 3 models...

I've seen probably a dozen or so Eoses in the last couple of weeks...seem pretty popular in the Valley of the Sun.

In traffic this afternoon I saw a sharp medium blue '69 Chevelle SS... had a serious rumble.

Thing is, for most people, the Camry is a perfectly rational choice...they just look at the reviews in Consumer Reports, the reliability ratings, the resale value, it's an easy choice. GM choices are a harder sell for most people, I'm afraid.

Things get busy around auto show time and new model year releases...not much going on now..

Latest news on the American Axle strike is that GM is looking to conceed $200 million to them...(might as well flush it down the toilet).

Yeah, weight is a factor..the Escort was probably 2500 lbs. It was kind of fun on windy roads..had good steering feel. Wouldn't want to drive it today because of the lack of content (it was a stripped down L model w/ vinyl interior, am radio, manual windows, etc), lack of modern features (no cupholders, etc) and lack of safety features (no airbags, ABS, etc).

My 52hp diesel Escort got around quite efficiently (over 50 highway) and would cruise at highway speeds (55-65) quite well, but that was 20+ years ago... it was pretty slow to accelerate, even w/ a 5 speed manual. Wouldn't really want to drive it today.

Went to play softball in Scottsdale w/ the company team tonight...sitting in the lot at the field was a gorgeous maroon '68 Camaro RS convertible, top down, parked next to a late model SL 65 AMG, top down also. Later, at the pub, I saw a black '69 GTO in the lot. Sweet.

One thing Saturn did do, though, at least in the '90s, was attract customers that would never have considered GM in the first place...I've read they did manage to get a fair number of potential Honda or Toyota customers that would never consider Chevy (considering the dreck Chevy had for FWD models back then, that would be understandable).

Not to change the thread, but what is sad is that the only person that I know that owns Pontiac--ANY Pontiac (he owns old ones ('60s-70s GTOs) and newer ones ('02 T/A, '06 GTO)) is north of 50. My peers--both in Colorado and here in Arizona, with the exception of some SUVs, overwhelmingly drive import brands..my team at my new company, all mid 20s to late 30s, about 1/2 single or DINKs, 1/2 MWC, drive a Toyota Matrix, Toyota Tundra crew cab, 2 '07 BMW 3-series, a Civic, a Camry, 1 '07 Infiniti G35, and 1 '07 Infiniti G37..with my Jeep, I'm the only one driving domestic...that's been typical at the last 3 companies I've worked at.

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Yeah, not the most reliable source...but if you consider all of PCS's ominious hints over the years (assuming he's not spreading disinformation,which he may well be), well, where there is smoke...

Ah... ok.

What is this 'Omega'? Yet another rumoured new platform? First I've heard of it..

Weak sauce. The 3-series has a convertible. the CLK has a convertible. A G37 convertible is rumoured. An A5 convertible is coming. GM needs to get their sh*t together and develop a CTS convertible.