Robert Hall

I could see realistically 10-15% market share by 2030, maybe slightly higher.

Hmmm..Saturday night, January 1994...probably would have been either in a bar in Kent, Oh w./ grad school friends, at a bar in the Flats in Cleveland w/ those same friends, or in a computer lab on the Kent State campus w/ some of those same friends, working on projects...was about to finish my master's degree, and a few months later (June) moved to Ann Arbor, Mi for my 2nd round of grad school. I had my '86 Mustang LX 2.3 w/ snow tires on it then, the '87 Mustang GT would have been at the family farm in the barn. Would have been listening to a lot of Pink Floyd, early 90s grunge (Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, etc) and industrial (Nine Inch Nails) then, with some Tori Amos in the mix.

I think it's been mentioned they have other products planned...

Amazon also announced a deal to buy ProMaster EVs from Stellantis starting in 2023, that reduces the potential for additional Rivian purchases...sounds like Amazon is going with multiple vendors for vans rather than eggs in one basket approach.

Yeah, that's where bigger side mirrors and back up cameras really help. I noticed it when I went from my '00 JGC to the '14 JGC a few years ago. Bigger vehicle with thicker pillars, smaller side and rear windows, bigger headrests, can't see any of the corners from the driver's seat. Just the way it is with modern vehicles. Driving something from 20-30 years ago is quite a difference, the cabins seem so light and airy.

Getting younger, eh? Happy Birthday!

Sorry. It's been so mild here...had only a light dusting of snow 3 times, nothing that stuck for long. Lots of rain and wind, and not too cold so far...

I've got my Pfizer double dose + booster.. been staying close to home, avoiding going out in public, and masking (N95) when I have to be around other people. No idea when I'll go back in the office or eat in a restaurant or go to a concert. Not anytime soon. Have felt the last week like I have a cold, but no fever or cough. I always seem to get a cold in January. I used to get sinus infections annually. Just looking forward to March and getting through winter (been a mild winter so far, by NE Ohio standards)...

Always liked the GT Hawk...was a beautiful update to the Hawk. I can only imagine the sensation the original '53 caused, it was such a clean, angular design compared to the gaudy humpy lumpys that Detroit was making then. I generally don't get into '50s cars much, but I do like the original Studebaker pre-Hawk coupes.

I was disappointed they didn't give me the wifi network name and password.

Sounds interesting...ambitious. Now I'm craving a bowl of Pho. Some of those front ends make me think of some Vauxhalls...

Interesting to see it going up over time... I know some states have value tax for registration that decreases as the value declines..so the first year for a new car is the highest...Colorado and Arizona were like that. Never saw it go up, but that was in the past. Ohio is a flat rate... my Jeep is around $65/year. Had I registered it in Arizona in 2017 when I bought it there, it would have probably been over $500/year.

I don't think I'd want to live anywhere colder than NE Ohio. I like how it's hilly near here, and kind of a mix of the Midwest but more like PA and W. New York. I love the Northeast and New England region, but the winters are considerably colder, harsher and longer. Don't think I could live in the South (though I could see spending Jan-Feb in S. Florida or the Florida Keys). I do love So Cal and the Front Range of Colorado, but both places are just too expensive to live anywhere really nice. The Southwest, been there, done that. Had enough desert for one lifetime. The PNW is still an area I want to explore more...visited friends in Portland and Seattle before, but there is more I want to see...

I've done very rural before (family farm is 90 miles south of here in very rural E Ohio), college towns, small cities, big cities, a resort town/island, and suburbia... I think ultimately I'd like to stay close to a major city w/ great hospitals and health care (always important as one gets older), plenty of arts/culture, plenty of diverse restaurants, an airport, close to beaches and parks...so maybe 30-40 min outside of Cleveland close to Lake Erie in a semi-rural setting will be my next move...

Reminds me of my childhood 'farm' in some respects... 130 wooded acres out in the middle of nowhere, 2 large ponds on the property, we were lucky if we could get 2 channels w/ an antenna (until my Dad installed a satellite dish in the early 80s). Alas, after my mother's death in 2016, my idiot brother has made it impossible to visit and enjoy the property. Hope to sell it eventually (my brother has been trying to sell but ignores the fact my sister and I also co-owners) and buy a vacation property close to Lake Erie...

^ looks idyllic... I need something like that in my life. Thinking living part time on a lake in NE Ohio could be very satisfying, as long I can get high speed internet for working remotely...

Reality is complex, there are many things. So much tedious blatherage in this thread, nothing more to say here..done with this thread...

I haven’t swam in a lake since I was a kid. I’ve been canoeing and boating on lakes as an adult, thinking about taking up kayaking or canoeing. So many lakes and rivers in NE Ohio. I miss having a swimming pool like I did in Arizona, was very relaxing. I don’t really like public pools.

No idea. I’m a software engineer, not an accountant.

You do realize Amazon owns Whole Foods?

Note I didn’t say anything about fast food…I’ll go through the drive thru for Dunkin’s or McDs occasionally…for local restaurants, I like getting lunch or dinner delivered via the services when I’m not cooking. Get a nice pasta, pad Thai or chicken briyani delivered, and drink some wine from Whole Foods. Pretty convenient.

Can’t compare food delivery and grocery delivery services to car dealers excessively marking up products. Food delivery companies provide a service and a convenience. I could go to a restaurant and get takeout, or go to the grocery and do curbside pickup, but I’ll pay a bit more for it delivered right to my door.

I buy groceries from Whole Foods via Amazon and a from a couple local chains via Instacart. Very efficient, and nice to have food delivered to my door without having to go out to a grocery. I like UberEats, DoorDash and Grubhub for restaurant delivery...used those a lot during the last 22 months of pandemic to avoid going out in public... I like services that I can use from my phone to procure products and avoid having to go out and shop for, esp. in times like these... I miss dining out, but with COVID highly contagious and even being current on my vaccination, I’m risk-averse about going out around people indoors…

Haggling on prices is fine at a flea market or Turkish bazaar, seems absurd to do a new consumer product. I don't think haggling works if I go into the Apple store and want to buy a new laptop or order dinner in a restaurant. Fixed price, I can choose if I want to buy that product or not.

Well, neither do you...you don't own a car dealership chain.