GMTruckGuy74

Yup - it's 2wd.

That's the #1 one color choice for me, with the red & black leather interior. My local BPG dealership, that closed for good yesterday, still has one just like that sitting on the showroom floor. I guess other BPG dealers will be coming out on Monday to start buying off the inventory??? The same closed dealership had one of the "888" series sitting on the showroom floor too (maybe it sold?). It's a nice color, but after having two cars in similar grays ('04 Malibu, '07 SKY), I think I'm staying away from gray for now. In addition to the white G8 GT, they still have a bright red G8 GT on the lot. I wish my wife liked the G8, as I'm sure we could have gotten Supplier Pricing on them as they wanted to move inventory before the close Friday

Perrine BPG-Hummer-Saab on Route 130 North in Cranbury is way too far for me, especially if service is needed. However, my best friend from high school had purchased a new Enclave from Perrine and took another friend & his wofe there for them to get an Acadia - he knows the owner - so purchasing from them could be a possibility, but again I need some place close for warranty & regular service. I never liked dealing with Peruzzi BPG, especially when a friend of mine was ripped off by them on a used truck purchase. I'd much rather stay on the Jersey side of teh Delaware River then go to Peruzzi! I have a feeling that GM pulled the franchise only to give to someone else that will be willing to build a newer & bigger dealership close by. FOr those of you familiar with south Jersey & Route 130, that highway is serioulsy undergoing major transformation. New shopping centers are being built on older ones that have been closed for years (see Willingboro, Delran & Cinnaminson townships for proof), and new car dealerships are being added too. Outside of Willingboro on the edge of Delran abiut 5 years ago, Dodge City & Hyundai City opened on a combined parcel - three years ago they added Chrysler, and this past November they added Jeep. The buildings are new and the inventories are packed (the Chrylser & Jeep franchises were purchased from smaller, older dealerships that were closing). Next door to them a very large Toyota dealership is being constructed - there current building is in Burlington City (about 3 miles north of their new location) and is small and congested. There is already a very large and well-to-do Chevy dealership in Delran (Barlow), so the only GM franchises that are missing in this area are Buick, Pontiac, and GMC (Cadillac is offered at the very small Ayres Cadillac-Pontiac dealership in Burlington Twp on Rt 130; I wonder since my local BPG dealer is closing, will Ayres be building a bigger dealership now?)

AMP = Adjusted Market Price; it is an additional dealer mark-up over the MSRP, usually a dealer-installed sticker next to the factory window sticker. They may go by other names too, such as Adjusted Market Value (AMV). It all depends on how you're dealer wants to word ripping you off for a limited edition or brand new model available in limited quantities

Well, I stopped by yesterday briefly to see what was up. Only one salesperson on the floor (it was 5:15, and the dealership closes at 9:00 PM), the receptionist, no customers, and all the brochures I wanted There were three G8 GTs there - a gray "888" in the showroom with the AMP sticker missing now, a red one with the AMP for $3k still on it, and a white one with the red & black leather & 19" rims & summer tires upgrade without an AMP sticker (apparently there was one, but it was removed). I sat in the gray "888" one and checked it over. I left my name & phone # with the receptionist, just in case the sales manager I know there wants to offer me a "deal" on one of the remaining G8s (the wife still isn't crazy about them). On a side note, a quick look around the dumpster (noticed a lot of boxes lined up to be thrown out) netted me a "GMC Truck Month" poster featuring the Yukon & Sierra Denali trucks and a very large GMC Acadia window cling/decal. They have GMC, Buick, and Pontiac floormats inside of the showroom - I'd like the Pontiac & GMC ones for my garage! I may have to stop by again next week when the SM is there and see if he'll give me anything else before it goes in the garbage.

No, there are no others close by (a new dilemma for me if we purchase a new Buick, Pontiac, or GMC). The next closest one is approximately 20-25 miles away, and that's too far out of my way (FC Kerbeck in Palmyra, NJ). I leased my Envoy from Burns BPG, which is around 20 miles away, but I wasn't happy with their service dept or there inconvenient location (Marlton, outside of Cherry Hill). Unless GM is closing this small-time dealer only to offer the franchise to another person who will build a much bigger store in one of the developing towns nearby, I will have to drive out of my way to get a new Buick, Pontiac, or GMC. Time will tell. Just out of curiousity, is there any way to tell GM "officially" how disappointed I am with this decision? I mean there's no other local BPG dealership nearby, yet there's three Chevrolet dealerships all within a 10-mile radius!

My local (literally right around the corner from where I live), small-time Buick-Pontiac-GMC dealer is closing per GM, at least that's what I was told today by the business manager. About a month ago, I noticed the inventory of older cars & trucks stored in the back of the dealership were missing. Then I noticed the used car inventory became smaller and smaller each passing week; the new vehicle inventory didn't seem to get any larger either (I noticed that the 4 G8 GT sedans they received apparently are their last new car deliveries; only one sold, the other 3 are still there with AMP stickers on them for $3k each ). Then on Saturday as I was passing the dealership I saw the big, bright red FOR SALE sign. The delayed call today confirmed the dealership is closing after 24 years of existence. The business manager stated that GM was no longer interested in having a BPG dealership in this area and were closing them down. I asked if the franchise was being sold, and she replied "No". The remaining used cars will sold off and she's not sure what will happen to the unsold new inventory (probably be sold to other local dealers?). She said to keep an eye out in the local newspapers for a big "blow-out" sale soon. Seeing as how GM is willing to relieve me of my Envoy lease's last two payments (June & July, all that I have left), maybe I'll visit them during the sale and see what I can work out :AH-HA_wink: I'm sad they're closing, as I've been using their service dept for the last two years and have been VERY satisfied. I'll now need to find a new BPG dealership to use for service (assuming we stay with a Buick, Pontiac, or GMC vehicle when the Envoy lease goes back). Now I need to find out if the much smaller Pontac-Cadillac dealership two towns over is closing. They are the ones with the white '87 GP LE parked in the garage I posted about a week ago. I can't imagine GM would keep them open much longer, seeing as how they had 5-6 new Pontiac vehicles and 3-4 new Cadillacs. <shrug> Anyone else know of their local GM dealership closing?

I found this on sale at my local Cracker Barrel restaurant. I didn't buy it, as I have a Simpson's clock similar in style to this already. I could however put it in my office, should I decide to eventually. Thought some here might enjoy adding this to their stable of "GM collectibles". :AH-HA_wink:

Oh Cruel Fate, Why Do You Mock Me???

Thanks for taking the time to look, but this car is not a "MUST HAVE" for me. If I find one that's a good deal, then I'll bite. I just happened upon the white '87 GP LE and wondered if I should ask or not, seeing how it is parked in a garage and not in an area where cars are "for sale". Again, thanks

NEW: (1) Caddy CTS, (2) G6 sedans, (1) G6 GT Coupe OLD: '80s Pontiac 6000LE, '87 Pontiac Grand Prix LE, '70s/'80s Chevy El Camino, and one other car I can't recall Hey, at least I found out rather than still sitting here wondering. Atleast they have my name & contact info should it ever become available in teh future :AH-HA_wink:

...nothing gained. Literally. The dealer e-mailed me back to say that the 1987 GP is not for sale and to thank me for my request. Oh well, at least I found out rather than always wondering.

GM does do this at other car shows - Chevy was present at last year's All-GM Nationals show at Carlisle Fairgrounds in Carlisle, PA. I test drive the all-new 2007 Silverado Crew Cab Z71 4WD there, and had the opportunity to drive other Chevy vehicles but didn't. The GM/Chevy workers told me they travel from show-to-show doing this. Pontiac did this in the past at another All-GM Nationals show there too. I agree with you 100% and think GM can benefit greatly from this type of promotion. They need to bring back the "Auto Show In Motion" show too, as that was a big hit with many people. My only suggestion - reconsider offering test-drives in the competition's models, as my wife was one to walk away wanting the non-GM cars!

My mom's '83 GP LJ was maroon with a maroon landau and a dark red velour cloth interior/buckets. I remember vividly many trips taken in that car... it truly was the car of my childhood (while many of my friends parents had the all-new minivan, my dad refused to buy anything than a two-door coupe). As for my dad, he was okay with "basic transportation" and the cheaper, the better. He'd buy old '70s Dusters and Ford Mavericks - whatever worked well and that he could pay in cash on the cheap. Anywhere we went as a family, we took the GP. Did a little "Googling" today and found through my research that this is likely an '86 or '87 GP due to the fact that it has a third brake light and this was done starting in the '86 model year. I'm going to venture a guess that it is also equipped with a V8, as it has <aftermarket, I'm assuming> dual exhaust outlets with chrome tips - I don't think a V6 owner would go that length <shrug>. I like this car a lot, but other than for sentimental reasons, it's not a "must have" for me. If it works out, then great; if not, then I'll move on. It sure looks like a really clean 20-something year old car though. Now if money were not an object right now, I found an original condition, red with black interior, 57k mile '97 WS6 Ram Air Trans Am T-top Coupe for sale - the ultimate TA for me. Back in late 1996, I stalked my then local B-P-G dealer (back where I grew up) because they had two awesome '97 WS6 Ram Air Coupes for sale - one black and one red <I wanted the red one> - fully loaded cars too. The wife and I just started our relationship and she thought I was wierd for stopping by to see them on an almost daily basis (I passed the dealership on the way to her house). The black one sold first, in late winter, and the red one went during the late summer. I really played the NJ Lottery weekly to try to get the cash to buy one (I was in my senior year of college in '97, so there was no way I could afford one then). Anyway, the one I found is listing for $12,995 and I've been trying to convince the wife all weekend that the T/A is a liveable daily driver for me and that it would be cool to drive around - all 4 of us - with the t-tops off. So far she's not buying I'll be waiting patiently tomorrow to see if the dealership responds to my e-mail about the GP.

Well, I just sent the dealership owner an e-mail; hopefully I get good news back soon. If it is for sale, and the price is negotiable, I'll tell them they can keep the Thule aftermarket carrier to knock off some $$$ Thanks for the input so far. Anyone know of a good site to check out GPs of this vintage? I'd like to know options, features, etc. for this generation.

My parents bought a brand new 1983 Pontiac Grand Prix LJ new; I was 8 y-o at the time. I essentially grew up with this car, and learned how to drive on it. May of 1993 my mom traded it in and it was gone forever (I did see it on two separate occasions in 1994). Ever since then, I've had a special place in my heart for these unloved GPs, and vowed one day to own one (even though it was never really mine, I treated it like it was my own before I bought my first car, a '78 Camaro LT, in 1992). Over the years I'd spot one for sale or just sitting alone, but all have needed work. Last Sunday I was out cruising around looking at dealer inventories and I spotted this: I've seen this car before, in the same spot, but never really "noticed" it (I wasn't looking for this at the time). There's a very SMALL Pontiac-Cadillac dealer in Burlington County (NJ) that stores 75% of his inventory (about 5 new cars) inside of the garage on weekends. While peeking in to see if they had a G8, I spotted the '84-'87 GP LE pictured above. There was also a 6000LE and an '80s El Camino in there too, none of which look like they have been driven or moved in a LONG time. They all are wearing dealer's tags, but again, they don't look like they've been moved as the amount of dust covering them is apparent looking through the window. So my question is, should I contact the dealership and ask about the status of this car? The reason I've been hesitating is that I found it by looking through their garage window on a day the dealership was closed - it's not like it was parked outside - so would they think I want to break in? Would they take me seriously? Even if they said it was for sale, I only have a small amount available ($1k), so I'm guessing I wouldn't have enough to buy it. But should I try anyway? And if you say yes, how should I word it?

Thanks for the info Olds Guy. I was at my local TRU last Tuesday, and they didn't have any of these (though they had the Bandit series and the '89 Pontiac Firebird Formula; I passed even though I liked it). My TRU is a smaller one, so they don't usually get the good stuff until some of the bigger ones around me do. I will keep my eyes open for both the '55 Pontiac (gotta have at least one of them regardless) and the '53 Olds. Please keep posting your finds!

I guess GM doesn't want my money then. I can't afford the Cadillac CTS wagon, and I'd be stretching a bit to afford the G8 version, but at least it would be within range, whereas the CTS wagon is not. So stupid for GM to limit their sales because of a divisions rants that they have to be the sole provider of a car

I think for the time being the $1,800 we'll be getting (married + 2 kids) will be going into the savings account. It won't last long - we have a small family trip planned for the first week of November and that money will most likely pay for our airfare tickets.

Wow, those are sweet looking cars!!! Where'd you find them, and how much did they cost? Are there more GM models available? Thanks!

X2... here's mine:

Okay, I know this is a loaded question, because everybody will have "their" own favorite brand to recommend. A close friend of mine wanted me to go with him 42" LCD TV shopping this afternoon, mainly because he can't fit what he wants to buy in his '05 Grand Prix and needed me for my Envoy (friends with trucks ). I really didn't mind though, because I haven't spent much time with Jeff lately. Anyway, a we started off at Best Buy to see what deals they had. He looked at LG, Samsung, Toshiba, and Sony there. Next was Cicuit City, with pretty much the same offering, but adding in Westinghouse. Last stop was at BJ's Wholesale Club, where he looked at a Philips, Olevia, and Vizio LCD TVs. Needless to say, he's confused and is not sure if he should a "brand name" over a more affordable brand. He'd like to spend less than $2,000 - so that's putting the Sony out of the question (most Sony 42" LCD TVs were over $2,500 bucks; the non-brand names <Philips, Olevia, Vizio> were between $900-$1200, and the LGs were around $1,800). A man we followed from Best Buy over to BJ's stated he ownes a Vizio and loves it; however, his sister <to whom he was there helping buy one> wants BRAND NAME recognition. Jeff was in doubt, so he held off the purchase to do some more research. So I ask the knowledgeable here, if you were shopping for a 42" LCD TV, would you choose one of the lesser-known brands, or go with the LG or Sony ones? I'm sure he'll want to go shopping soon, and he asked me to ask around with the people I know what they have. I appreciate your input and look forward to reading your insight.

I've attached a picture I took previously of a white Sierra at my local dealership. While you are 100% correct that the front wheelwell is blacked out and the rear wheelwell is body color, IMO I don't think it's as horrible as you're making it out to be. I could live with that just fine if I owned one; maybe the aftermarket has addressed this issue?

I see that the GMC Denali XT concept has given the 2010 Terrain it's grille design: We could have gotten a rebadged VUE: ( )

Move the business back to Jersey, I can help you get schools signed up, and then you can hire me part-time to be a driver! :AH-HA_wink: