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The rear isn't as bad in person, IMO. It could still use some work, though. I don't think that's going to make or break many deals in this segment, anyways. GM did the same thing with the Enclave. The Enclave was on sale before any reviews every came out (I think Autoweek tested a dealer's Enclave so they could write a review before the embargo) as well. For some reason I guess GM thinks it should have the vehicles out there when the reviews start. That way, if someone comes in to check one out and possibly buy it, there are examples sitting on the lot. It would probably be a bit of a let down if they went there and were told to wait another month. BTW, if "this is the best Chevy ever made" (besides the Corvette) is supposed to include the T900s, that's really saying something.

What a load of bull. So you know the NG G6 will be cramped? You've sat in it? The Solstice is selling at about 20k/year. Even if it drops to 15k, that's pretty good for a roadster. The GTO did about 15k as well. G8 will do 50k easily. What says the RWD G6 is supposed to be low volume? Even if it only sells half as well as the current G6, that's going to be 70k sales. That's 150k sales with a slow-selling G6. The 3er does 100k/year and there's no reason the G6 can't do the same considering what the price difference will be. Buick should be able to do at least 300k with the Enclave, Lucerne, LaCrosse, and a TE-based crossover. Possibly 350k. They did? They why are both dead?

Quit kidding yourself. GM has sold a ton of these "things." Don't believe me? The Miata is supposed to be "king" of the small roadsters, and outsell everything: Miata sales YTD 2007: 10790 Solstice sales YTD 2007: 10541 Sky sales YTD: 7122 I'd say they're selling pretty damn well.

It looks pretty good, but I strongly disagree with those that say it's better than the CTS. It's not better in any way, unless you want a V8.

I don't see this happening, considering GM's target is to sell over 40k Vettes/year for the C7. That's not going to happen at $72k base.

Cool, even if it's not really for me. One thing is for sure, that's the best interior that has ever been in any vehicle with a bed.

Agreed, though the color wouldn't be difficult for me. Black would be the only option... seeing it in person it looks like a bat out of hell in black.

The interior is quite unimpressive. I like the current one better. The coupe looks pretty good, though I don't much care for the grille that is made up of 5 straight lines and it has a huge ass. The sedan, which is obviously much more important, is completely unflattering from every angle. Perhaps that is a good thing though. FWIW, I showed this to my roommates and they both though it was ugly.

Wow, that's not even close to begin CLS-like, besides not having much rear leg or head room. I think four door coupes are dumb, personally. If there's not much back seat room anyways, what's the point? A 2-door coupe looks better, so why not buy that? Sure, ingress/egress is easier in the "four-door coupe" but the rear doors are still tiny (at least on the CLS) so there isn't that much room anyways. Plus, it's not that much of a hassle if you have power front seats, anyways.

So much for Chrysler Group upgrading their interiors...

Happy birthday! Don't get too wasted.

It looks awesome, thanks for the pics, Ted. I think they need to ditch the base wheels and give all models chrome fog light surrounds, like empowah said. There's not much you can do about the front plate.

The exterior looks quite stylish, but as Nick said it's begging for some bigger wheels. The interior could be better, but it's not a terrible effort.

I'm at school, no more driving for me.

People are just offering their opinion... they can say whatever they want and you don't have to agree with them, but that doesn't mean you don't have to respect their opinion.

GM can afford to price these things a bit high. They're only importing ~30k/year and even less of the 3-door.

The exterior is rather ugly, the interior is okay, but it's somewhat generic. It looks a lot like the Opel GTC concept (the interior).

Wow, that's very realistic! I would expect the Challenger to start near $40k if it's going to have the 6.2L.

For some reason they thought there was infighting. Perhaps they heard of some infighting between Opel and the Chinese Buick, but the American Buick was never planned to be at the same time or before the Opel.

Why do the Highlander and this look like they're from the late 90s? The interior isn't even very good, either. Hopefully Toyota continues down their path to mediocrity.

The Lacrosse is schedule for Jan 2009. The name is not changing (thanks GMinside rumors and speculation for starting that) at least not as of right now, and the debate about which would get to production first was whether or not the Opel would be first or the Buick (again thanks to GMinside rumors and speculation) and that Opel and Buick were fighting over who would get one first, which is also not true. The Opel is first, but the first NA-EPII is the Lacrosse. The 9-5 is next (though it could have a later NA debut, I would guess) and then the Aura.

H2 is not GMT900, and even if it was it is not cross-shopped with most of the others. Outselling the Odyssey and Chrysler vans is quite a task, seeing as how they have sold so well for years, though GM's target is pretty much the same as what the Odyssey is on pace for this year. As someone else said, the Chevy really doesn't compete with the others too much, except perhaps the Acadia. The Outlook is for import buyers who won't consider a Chevy, the Acadia may compete with it on the bottom end, and the Enclave is obviously much more upscale.

If it sells as well as GM is projecting, it won't be a waste of time or money at all. GM does have plans for smaller CUVs like the Edge, but they aren't ready yet. It does seem a little silly to have 4 of the same vehicle running around, but if the Chevy comes in $5k under the Outlook I think it will be fine. The VUE is less than 6 inches bigger than the Escape. There are not 4 brands with T900s last I checked. GM does need a minivan, and I don't see what's so hard about putting on some sliding doors, but they think this Chevy is going to sell better than the Highlander or Pilot, which apparently they don't think is possible with a minivan. The Trailblazer will have a replacement, though not a BOF one. The Lambdas are very high quality products, class leading in fact. However, the ones out right now are quite expensive, and if GM can offer the Chevy Lambda at the Edge's price, I think it will be very successful.

Welcome! Did you happen to ask the dealer how much it would be? You should also make sure it doesn't void any warranty to do that. I did a quick search on ebay and came up with this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-CHEVRO...sspagenameZWDVW Perhaps they would know?

Sure, California is an important market, but you cannot base GM's needs simply on the California market, especially when it is obviously much different from half of the rest of the markets. You said you wanted a SWB Zeta under the Impala, LWB Impala, LWB Caprice, and the Alpha all to be Chevys in addition to the Malibu (and Aveo and Cobalt). I guess I miss counted. Still, that's 7, and it's still nearly as many as GM plans to spread out over Chevy, Buick, and Pontiac. Before you were clamoring for Chevy to get more money to develop products, but really you are just saying to have nearly the same number of products, but just call them all Chevys. I don't see the problem with there being 3-4 Pontiacs and 3-4 Buicks. GM needs to develop vehicles for the markets that those vehicles are meant to fill, anyways, so why not do it under an existing nameplate that, while it hasn't always filled those holes in the past, still targeted those markets and were marketed as sporty or luxurious vehicles. Plus, all of those vehicles would be on shared architectures. The only thing they would cost GM would be the cost to develop unique sheetmetal and interiors. Look... Enclave = Lambda... costs are well spread out between 4 divisions and at least 5 vehicles (at least 1 minivan is still on). LaCrosse = EP II... global platform spread out between countless brands and probably 1 million units per year worldwide Lucerne = Zeta... again a global platform with probably 1 million units worldwide Possible 4th vehicle (probably CUV below the Enclave or a Zeta coupe) = Theta/TE or Zeta... meaning it either shares costs with the 9-4x and BRX or Equinox and GMC counterpart or if it's the coupe all the Zeta vehicles. G8 = Zeta... see above "G6" = Alpha... Cadillac's car needs something to help the costs be spread out, and Holden is getting one anyways. So make it the same as Holden's with unique fascias. That's a $50 million development cost... very cheap. Solstice = Kappa. This is much lower volume but obviously it's cheap to produce. The Solstice and Kappa were made from the ground up for $250 mil. Possibly a GTO = Zeta... see above. Again just unique sheetmetal on a platform that's already paid for.