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Now NOS, won't you be in college still in 09? College kids can't afford Camaros
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He means vehicles done under Lutz's command. Up until the Solstice, the products had some Lutz influence (more influence as they got newer) but were still mostly Zarella. From now on, all of the vehicles we see (including GMT900s) will all have been done under Lutz.
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It's 186" long and rides on a 110" wheelbase. I'm not sure what the dimensions of the 4th gen were, but I'm pretty sure it's smaller.
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That site Mustang84 posted had all the models for fleet. The Accord only had like 4% fleet, and had more retail sales than the Camry through 6 months of the year (though by only a few thousand units).
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Well hey, Josh isn't the only one that can change names I'll change it for you.
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CAMARO CONCEPT IS HERE!!
Northstar replied to HarleyEarl's topic in North American International Auto Show in Detroit (NAIAS)
This has already been posted. Please post your thoughts in this thread: http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...?showtopic=4669 Please see this thread regarding reposts as well: http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...?showtopic=4691 I would like to keep that thread as THE Camaro thread until we get official pics and information. -
Lately, there have been a lot of reposts with debuts, and it is understandable but I think it can be prevented. Reposted topics simply add clutter to the forum and make it hard to navigate at times (and confusion occurs when there are multipul topics because people don't know which they've already posted in). As a result, I, along with other Admins, are going to make an effort to pin topics that we want the discussions to be in. If you find another story about a vehicle that has debuted and you think it is significantly different from what has already posted, please simply post a link to that story, but do not post the whole story in the thread as that requires excess scrolling. So, if everyone could please do their best to make sure that the vehicle that you want to post something about doesn't already have a topic, it would be appreciated. I realize that some reposts will occur, but the fewer the better. In this case, less is more.
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Wow, excellent job.
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We'll have the full press release posted once the clock strikes 12:01 AM EST.
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I doubt it can fit the I6. It's relatively small (186") and the wheelbase is 110". I think the 3900 would be better because it should provide plenty of power for most people and will be much cheaper (keeping the base price down).
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For release: Jan 8, 2006 at 12:01 AM EST CHEVROLET TAHOE WITH TWO-MODE FULL HYBRID EXPLOITS FUEL SAVINGS, SUV DRIVING PLEASURE AND PERFORMANCE DETROIT – The Chevrolet Tahoe full-size SUV has earned its outstanding reputation with independent consumer studies recognizing its sales and quality leadership. With the addition of the world’s first two-mode full hybrid propulsion system, the Chevrolet Tahoe takes its outstanding reputation even further with a 25-percent improvement in fuel economy and a superior driving experience that SUV customers know and love. “The Chevrolet Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid combines the functionality and comfort of a full-size SUV with a two-mode full hybrid system that optimizes fuel efficiency in both city and highway driving, the way most Americans use their vehicles,” said Tom Stephens, group vice president, GM Powertrain. “The Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid delivers on GM’s commitment to apply advanced technologies where we will realize the most fuel savings.” The Vortec V-8 powered Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid is expected to deliver a composite fuel efficiency improvement of 25 percent when combined with Active Fuel Management™ cylinder deactivation technology. The Tahoe Hybrid will go on sale next year as a 2008 model, along with the GMC Yukon Two-mode Hybrid. Pricing and production volumes have not been announced. Design Manager David Smith and his team gave Chevy Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid a distinctive look befitting its unique powertrain, while ensuring a design reflecting that it is still unmistakably a Chevy. The Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid is 10 mm lower in the front and touts additional aerodynamic features compared to the non-hybrid Tahoe. Special features, including prominent hybrid badges and a Glacier Gold exterior finish, complete the look. “We took the brand-new, next-generation full-size truck platform, which already had segment-leading fuel economy and world-class aerodynamics, and took it to the next level,” said Mark Cieslak, assistant vehicle chief engineer for the Chevy Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid. “This was in addition to maintaining important performance attributes of full-size trucks, such as off-road capability, towing at 6,000 pounds, great 0-60 times and much more. It was understood from the start that we would deliver the goods on fuel economy, with typical full-size truck performance, and provide the integration detail that results in a flawless vehicle. And we have, with confidence.” GM, BMW and DaimlerChrysler are co-developing the two-mode full hybrid system that will leverage automatic transmission technology and electronic controls in an integrated, powerful and compact system that can be used with both gas and diesel engines. The Tahoe, the industry’s best-selling SUV, was completely redesigned for 2007 with dramatically increased attention to detail on nearly every aspect of the vehicle. The development team focused on improving ride and handling, quietness, efficiency, and safety and security. They refined the interior and gave it a distinctive, sporty exterior. “Tahoe is known for delivering what its customers want, whenever they want to do it,” said Ed Peper, Chevrolet general manager. “The Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid offers great performance, 25-percent better fuel economy and all of the kind of utility that our current SUV has.” The two-mode hybrid system GM’s two-mode full hybrid system in transit buses has been established as the starting point for the GM-BMW-DaimlerChrysler collaboration. The design integrates proven automatic transmission technology with a patented hybrid-electric drive system to deliver the world’s first two-mode full hybrid. The two-mode is patented hybrid technology with two modes optimized for city and highway driving. In the first mode, at low speed and light loads, the vehicle can operate in three ways: electric power only, engine power only or in any combination of engine and electric power. When operating with electric power only, it provides all the fuel savings benefits of a full hybrid system. Leaving the engine shut off for extended periods of time and moving under electric power at low speed is key to reducing fuel consumption in heavy stop and go traffic. The second mode is used primarily at highway speeds. In addition to electric assist, the second mode provides full eight-cylinder engine power when conditions demand it, such as when passing, pulling a trailer or climbing a steep grade. The second mode integrates sophisticated electronic controls, such as Active Fuel Management, cam phasing, and late-intake valve closure, allowing even more efficient engine operation. Two-mode system innovations allow for more compact packaging because its compact and powerful electric motors are designed to fit within the approximate space of a conventional automatic transmission – an efficiency advantage compared with today’s typical single-mode systems that rely on much larger electric motors. A sophisticated controller determines when the vehicle should operate in either mode of the two-mode drive system. Input from the controller determines the necessary torque for the driving conditions and sends a corresponding command to the engine and electric motors. The engine and electric motors transfer torque to a series of gears in the transmission, which multiply torque similar to a conventional automatic transmission to propel the vehicle. But unlike conventional continuously variable transmissions, the two-mode full hybrid’s electrically controlled system uses no mechanical belts or bands. Shifts between the two modes are synchronous, which means no engine speed changes are necessary for the mode shift to occur, resulting in ultra smooth accelerations. The 300-volt battery pack provides electric power for the system, and while it is larger than a typical automotive battery, it is designed to fit in the vehicle without compromising passenger space. Special converters located under the vehicle’s hood convert the motors’ AC output to DC current and power conventional 12-volt accessories, such as interior lighting, climate control and the radio. The vehicle’s internal combustion engine provides power to charge the battery pack, so the vehicle doesn’t have to be plugged in to keep the battery pack maintained. Because the architecture can be scaled to fit multiple vehicles and adapted to gasoline or diesel engines, the two-mode full hybrid can be applied globally. In Europe , for example, where diesel engines are common in passenger vehicles, it can provide a significant reduction in fuel consumption, which would help automakers meet the region’s ever-stringent carbon dioxide emissions standard. “We have several additional proprietary innovations that will make the two-mode system even more capable in high power-to-weight ratio vehicles, such as in SUVs and full-size pickups … innovations that combine our two-mode full hybrid with our extensive capability in automatic transmissions and electronic control systems,” said Stephens. “We believe it is the most efficient full hybrid design for a broad variety of vehicle configurations.” Designed for efficiency When it comes to saving fuel, even the most discreet design features can add up to significant fuel savings. Design Manager David Smith’s team used the existing, newly redesigned Chevrolet Tahoe, which already features segment-leading fuel economy and world-class aerodynamics, as a basis for additional aerodynamic refinements aimed at achieving even further fuel savings. Testing was conducted in GM’s aerodynamics laboratory in Warren , Mich. The front of the Chevrolet Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid has been lowered 10 mm compared to the conventional Tahoe, which provides additional aerodynamic benefits as well as a smoother and sleeker appearance. The hood and liftgate are made of aluminum to trim weight, and the leading edges of the hood have been streamlined. The Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid retains Chevy’s trademark dual-port grille with Chevy bowtie, but with a larger intake to accommodate the hybrid powertrain’s higher airflow requirement for cooling. The fascias are tuned at the corners and air dam, and the running boards are flared in front in an effort to guide airflow around the wheel openings. “This truly looks like a special vehicle,” said Smith. “It is packed with details, and every one of them serves a function.” There’s no mistaking this truck for anything other than a hybrid: Badging appears on the C-pillar, on the rear liftgate and on the hitch cover. Other aerodynamic refinements include sharpening of the D-pillar rearward, including the taillamps, a CHMSL appliqué detail spoiler over the rear hatch and a closeout panel under the back of the vehicle to facilitate airflow. Lightweight, aero-efficient wheels with the lowest rolling-resistance tires available for full-size trucks further trim fuel use, and are complemented with a tuned ride to provide the ride and handling performance and attention to detail that customers expect from a totally integrated vehicle. Chevrolet Tahoe Two-Mode Full Hybrid from MPH-Online
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For release: Jan 8, 2006 at 12:01 AM EST SATURN VUE GREEN LINE HYBRID DELIVERS GREAT FUEL ECONOMY THROUGH NEW, LOWER-COST HYBRID SYSTEM DETROIT – Saturn unveiled the production version of the 2007 Vue Green Line Hybrid, the first GM vehicle powered by a new, more affordable hybrid system. The Vue Green Line delivers an estimated 20-percent improvement in fuel economy, depending on driving conditions. It is expected to deliver an EPA estimated 27 mpg in the city and the best highway mileage of any SUV at 32 mpg. The Vue's hybrid system will cost under $2,000. The full vehicle price will start at less than $23,000. “The Vue Green Line is expected to be the lowest-cost hybrid-powered SUV in the market,” said Mark LaNeve, GM North America vice president of Vehicle Sales, Service and Marketing. “Its lower price allows us to offer the fuel-saving benefits of hybrids to a wider group of customers.” The Vue Green Line uses sophisticated controls and a unique electric motor/generator mated to a 2.4L VVT four-cylinder engine and 4T45-E four-speed transmission. It is a simple and flexible hybrid design that provides additional power from the motor/generator during acceleration and allows increased fuel economy through engine shut-off at idle, fuel cut-off during deceleration and the capability to capture electrical energy through regenerative braking. The Vue Green Line will be available in the summer of 2006. It is based on the popular Vue SUV, which was restyled for 2006 with distinctive exterior appointments and a more refined interior. “As Saturn continues an aggressive product lineup expansion, a hybrid version of the popular Vue is a natural addition,” said Saturn General Manager Jill Lajdziak. “The Vue Green Line st rengthens our position as an environmentally aware brand that provides great value – an attribute that has always appealed to Saturn customers.” Along with the Vue Green Line, Saturn will introduce the Sky roadster, Aura midsize sedan and Outlook crossover utility vehicle during 2006. Fuel-saving performance Vue Green Line’s innovative 2.4-liter hybrid powertrain is rated at 170 horsepower (127 kw), a powerful increase from the 143 hp provided by the 2.2-liter engine in the conventional four-cylinder Vue. This maintains the vehicle’s sporty feel, with acceleration better or equal to many non-hybrid SUVs. The Vue’s hybrid system reduces fuel consumption by: * Shutting off the engine when the vehicle is stopped, to minimize idling * Restarting the engine promptly when the brake pedal is released * Enabling early fuel shut-off during vehicle deceleration * Capturing vehicle kinetic energy during deceleration (regenerative braking) to charge an advanced nickel metal hydride battery * Performing intelligent battery charging when it is most efficient Additionally, the system provides additional power from the electric motor/generator during launch, when required. At wide-open throttle, such as during a passing maneuver, the system improves acceleration feel by using the motor/generator to bolster the gasoline engine to achieve maximum power. The new hybrid system also is designed to automatically maintain full accessory functionality, including climate control, when the vehicle is stopped, so that hybrid operation is transparent to the driver and passengers. The Vue Hybrid allows an appropriate balance between fuel economy and comfort by providing a system with two driver-selectable operating modes. An economy mode favors fuel economy by limiting the affect of air conditioning, while the other mode favors maximum passenger comfort and defogging performance. Three hybrid systems The Vue Green Line is one of 12 hybrids GM will launch, providing customers with several levels of fuel economy savings at different price points on vehicles ranging from cars to full-size SUVs. GM launched the world’s first hybrid pickup trucks in 2004, with retail availability expanding nationwide with the 2006 model year. GM also will introduce an all-new, two-mode hybrid system that is uniquely compact and scalable to vehicles of all sizes. This new system will debut in GM’s new, full-size Chevy Tahoe and GMC Yukon SUVs in 2007. Saturn VUE Green Line from MPH-Online
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Posted a LONG time ago. We **really** need to cut down on reposts of debuts. Everyone needs to do a search for new debuts if they're not sure if it's been posted.
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Wow, that looks really good. I guess the customer gets to determine the price if their isn't one. If they'll pay $45k for it then I guess that's the price.
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He didn't put down Buick, he just stated the problem. If anyone thinks that it's not easier to grow Saturn than Buick then they need to get their head out of their ass. Sure, Buick can be grown, but the image Saturn has makes it much easier to grow it than Buick.
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I had a dream last night that my dad went a testdrove a new Yukon (even though they aren't at dealers yet, lol) and he like it so much he bought it for my mom. Then I was trying to convince him he should have bought the Tahoe since it looked better or gotten the Escalade if he wanted something more luxurious. Weird...
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I've combined the two threads. I'm going to close and new threads about this so we don't have 20 threads on the same thing. Anyways, it looks sweet, and the size is perfect. It's over a foot shorter than the Challenger! The Challenger probably has 500lbs more heft to carry around and only 25 more horses under the hood.
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Already posted. Let's try to keep the threads to a minimum.
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I believe someone posted a quote from the Fbodfather and he said the 9th.
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No, you can't sell '09s until '08. The 2007 Tahoe will be out a long time, and the 2008 model won't come until fall 2007.