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  1. Camino LS6
    I'm curious because of two things. - It is the only 2-door SUV left. - It offers a manual. Just took a spin through the local lot: One manual Wrangler @ $33k
  2. Camino LS6
    If you've spent time behind the wheel of a new Jeep Wrangler recently, I'm wondering what your impressions of it were.
  3. Camino LS6
    Maybe some specific questions would help here. Does adding the 5.3 make sense? If it does make sense generally, does it then make sense to restrict it to just the new sub-model where it will sell, what? Maybe 5,000 units? And given that low-unit total, do new fascias offer any viable case for a reasonable ROI? And how will withholding the "Stingray" name affect the perception of the new sub-model? What other features might be beneficial for this new model? What features should be unavailable? Optional? How should it be promoted? Would it be held back from dealers who are not "high volume" as has been announced for the Stingray? Much to discuss, if you ask me. EDIT: And one more thing - Now is exactly the right time to discuss it, before it is set in stone.
  4. Camino LS6
    Cool. I look forward to your impressions of it.
  5. Camino LS6
    Once again you veer wildly off-topic. And without addressing the salient points.
  6. Camino LS6
    I know I was going to stay out of this, but what Roger just said changed that slightly. What about a new Beetle? How does it stack up re your requirements? It easily out-styles the rest of the candidates here.
  7. Camino LS6
    This thread is not about crossovers. It is not about sedans. Nor V6 engines Nor AWD It is about a possible lower-cost Corvette. It's not about Europe, nor China. It's about a proposed sub-model for Corvette. which: -Would use the 5,3 V8 rather than the 6.2 V8 -Have new fascias front and rear -Use different headlights -Not carry the "Stingray" name I don't know about the rest of you, but it seems to me those things are what we ought to be discussing here. The idea of a lower cost Corvette is an interesting idea, maybe even a great idea, but the recipe indicated by the article is certainly suspect. The headlights might save a buck or two, but the new fascias and engine can only add cost to production. And the idea of trying to market a new sub-model as less than worthy of the "Stingray" name can only be a handicap. It sounds as if the car is being set-up to fail rather than succeed. If the goal is a less expensive Vette that will boost sales, then the specifics need to change. That, is what I have been saying here.
  8. Camino LS6
    Ugh. Your responses are always a novel, chock full of off-topic subjects not pertinent to the subject at hand. That, and assumptions about what I think rather than what I've said. It has gotten old. We are here to speculate, express our ideas and hopes, and have a discussion of what could be, not to listen to pronouncements of "how it is" and that it is time to accept what you see as some inevitable future. To put it more colloquially, lighten up Francis! You're pissing in my cornflakes!
  9. Camino LS6
    None of us here hold all the facts - but it sure would be fun if we did. Still, that doesn't stop what we think from being valid. As for Scott, I believe that he no longer drinks. And I am a veteran of such talks.
  10. Camino LS6
    I think I'd be tempted to fold the proposed Corvette Coupe, the Corvette Stingray, and the Corvette GS into a single model: the Corvette Stingray. I'd then use the same body panels and the Stingray name on all of them and differentiate with option packages and stand alone options on a very basic standard Stingray. The very base car could offer a ZoK package that preps it for SCCA-style racing while also offering a place to start for an affordable street car. If they want to offer the 5.3, I'd make it the standard on all three packages with the 6.2 available across the board. That way, those who want a low-optioned race car can choose the 6.2 if their application calls for it, and those who just want a nice, comfortable, automatic cruiser can opt for the 5.3 if they like. For the standard Stingray, I'd offer the usual corporate option packages as standard equipment with stand-alone upgrades available. This car is the meat of the market and where the weekend cruisers and convertible buyers are. Same for the GS, with the exception being the 6.2 and a suspension upgrade being standard. Zo6 and ZR-1 would be as they are now relative to the rest and based on a single basic body and hardware package. They key is the base car. I would promote it as the ZoK rather than the "Corvette Coupe" or "The low-cost car" . It needs to be a Stingray in all the ways that really matter while providing the bang for the buck reputation that Corvette has earned over the years. Way basic, but with a long list of upgrades available. And I'd race it anywhere it could get exposure. So what you'd have is two distinct versions of Corvette with a range of possible equipment for each. Very, very short sighted. Very. JMO I know AWD is your holy grail, but I think a much better home for it would be a car like the SS rather than the Vette.
  11. Camino LS6
    A great many parts are different between the sub-models beyond the engine, and they are spread over a very low-volume. One has to question that wisdom when looking for a stable volume while maintaining profit. Old habits die hard, and conventional thinking can be like wearing blinders. In the case of Corvette, it would pay to at least look at other ways to offer the variety without so many sub-models. The devil would of course be in the details. but the hide-bound corporate SOP may not serve them well in this instance. Looking at other methods is called for here, I think.
  12. Camino LS6
    One interesting aspect of this is the blurring of the lines between independent models, option packages, and stand-alone options. This new lower-cost model brings to five the number of Corvette sub-models and starts to beg the question of the logic behind having so many distinct versions vs. doing the same thing via the line-item option list on a car with such low volume. It makes me wonder if there might be a point at which allowing a wider range of checklist options might be a better overall approach - even from the manufacturer's vantage point. Separate certification for five distinct sub-models of a sportscar that only sells around 12-17,000 units has to get a bit expensive. Then there is the need to differentiate the sub-models via specific trim and functional bits with bespoke parts for each. And, if they have to do artificial things like using the 5.3 and withholding the "Stingray" moniker to "position" the sub-model, line-item options start to look like a more attractive method.
  13. Camino LS6
    Ummm. what? EDIT: Just because a V6 contingency plan exists doesn't make it any less stupid an idea.
  14. Camino LS6
    Any V6 that is powerful enough for Corvette duty will have little or no advantage in MPG. So there is no point in it. At the numbers Corvette sells in, it's moot anyway.
  15. Camino LS6
    If you ask me, "contemporary" isn't worth much. This thing is hideous, and not a Jeep.
  16. Camino LS6
    AWD would just mean a heavier structure, and a compromised Corvette. Completely wrong platform for AWD. Completely wrong for Corvette.
  17. Camino LS6
    This.
  18. Camino LS6
    A V6 Vette, and an AWD Vette are simply nonsense. There would be zero gained, and much lost.
  19. Camino LS6
    Looks great.
  20. Camino LS6
    On a '57 SD, a salvage title means very little.
  21. Camino LS6
    About where my thinking sits at the moment. But the details will really tell the tale.
  22. Camino LS6
    One aspect of this I'm sure of. It absolutely, positively, has to be a "just right" offering. Right now, I'm thinking about what that might be.
  23. Camino LS6
    PM sent.
  24. Camino LS6
    Yep, I have been checking this stuff out online and Copart seems to have a monopoly on this business. The classic cars are the best candidates to restore due to the simplicity of the electrical systems. Like to get my mitts on the sedan delivery you spied!
  25. Camino LS6
    I need specifics... all of them.
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