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    As well as elsewhere.
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    I'm betting the gearing of the 8-speed has more to do with it than anything. I didn't side step your question. I'm not sure what kind of fuel economy you're expecting a 3800lb car with 430 ft-lb of torque to get.... I'm betting the gearing of the 8-speed has more to do with it than anything. I didn't side step your question. I'm not sure what kind of fuel economy you're expecting a 3800lb car with 430 ft-lb of torque to get.... I expect it to be notably better than a Zeta Camaro.
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    I agree on the diesel. But haven't you side-stepped my questions? Didn't you expect better? In all honesty, beating the Germans on fuel economy sets the bar pretty low - they've never been good on that front (with gas engines).
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    Let me put this another way. With all of the advantages of a leaner architecture and an 8spd auto, and a very high-tech V6, wouldn't you expect better MPG numbers? Wasn't that the point and the promise of this configuration? A new, more efficient, delivery of power? Wasn't this supposed to lead the way there? With the results obtained by both V8 and 4Cyl. engines, why do V6s lag behind in these gains? I just expected a better balance.
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    Inasmuch as it caused the loss of fuel economy I expected from this configuration - yes.
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    Same point as before (the flat TQ curve). It's an issue of balance, and the scale is too far tipped toward performance IMO. That's true, of course. If a bit beside the point I'm making here. The point you are making has no point. The only point is how this engine competes w/ equivalent engines from the market competitors. That's simply absurd.
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    That's true, of course. If a bit beside the point I'm making here.
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    Saw that crew cab a while back - pricey.
  9. Camino LS6
    The advantage is this: At least 387 ft-lb on tap between 2500rpm - 5500rpm. A n/a V8 would not provide that. That's one. Is it enough?
  10. Camino LS6
    I love power - you guys know that. However, what we have here is not what I expected from a non-V Alpha CTS with an 8spd. trans. Shouldn't this car be the light, efficient, but still powerful car that Alpha was meant to deliver? Shouldn't it trounce the old, heavy, Zeta Camaro in fuel economy? See what I'm saying?
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    Agreed.
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    Let's clarify something: I am not calling for this car to have a V8 - it should not. I am also not calling for more power - it has more than enough. In all honesty, I am simply calling for better results overall. My thinking here is that this engine has leaned too far to the performance side and ignored fuel economy. This is V-level performance that should have been toned down in favor of MPG gains. The V will have to be a lesson in overkill to slot above this engine, and I see that as a mistake. Don't be foolish, the numbers aren't there.
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    Did you read the article? This is clearly V8 performance... good for 420 horsepower and 430 pound-feet. That is mated to an eight-speed automatic transmission. This combination runs to 60 MPH in 4.6 seconds, a top speed of 170 MPH The fuel econ numbers will likely be class competitive w/ similar models from the German trio... this isn't an engine for a Malibu...premium market buyers aren't as hung up on fuel economy numbers as economy car buyers are. Please stop asking if I read it. I gave it its due on power - the engine has it in spades. What it doesn't have is a justification for its lousy MPG numbers in a new , lighter architecture and with all of its tech.
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    C'mon guys, this engine simply doesn't deliver what it should: near V8 performance, with V6 fuel economy. I'm not talking about taste, or cylinder count, or flavor, or even what I like or don't like. I'm looking at the numbers, and without gains in fuel economy, they just don't offer much. I'm sure I'd enjoy driving a car with this engine, it is quite potent, but what a roundabout way to get to that result! It ought to be beyond simple parity with an LS3 - it ought to blow it out of the water.
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    Well, I guess my takeaway from this is that this engine is for those with more money than brains. I would have been far more impressed if the engine delivered dramatic fuel economy while maintaining the same performance levels (or even a bit less). As is, I see no real advantage at all.
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    I read them. No significant differences as compared to an LS3 in a Camaro - except complexity and price. The numbers are a wash otherwise.
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    It's for a Cadillac, so complexity and expense is a necessity.... it fits better w/ the market niche than an NA pushrod v8 would....BMW was a twin turbo DOHC 6, the M-B E-class is getting one, Audi has a turbo V6 in the A6. So, it's all about perception? Partially....for marketing in the premium niche, you have to have premium hardware..that's how the game works. What's so premium about it? Other than price.
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    It's for a Cadillac, so complexity and expense is a necessity.... it fits better w/ the market niche than an NA pushrod v8 would....BMW was a twin turbo DOHC 6, the M-B E-class is getting one, Audi has a turbo V6 in the A6. So, it's all about perception?
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    OK. This engine essentially produces the same HP/TQ/MPG as an NA V8 of medium tune. But it adds a great deal of complexity and expense. Is there a gain here? I'm not trying to rain on this engine's parade, it is a potent package, but I just don't see much advantage to it after all of the effort put into it.
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    So nice to hear good news.
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    Sorry I missed your day, I hope you had a good one!
  22. Camino LS6
    Still doing triage, so no firm plans just yet. Too many directions, not enough time, nor money. Trying to get the timing for each thing down in my mind before diving back in. But I will be diving back in.
  23. Camino LS6
    Glad the early returns are all positive.
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    Cash and beer are both good in this situation, but is there something you can do for him that he can't/won't do for himself? That sort of exchange is the best if you can determine a way to make it happen. I've done similar things for friends and felt more than compensated by being fed a home-cooked meal - which is something I just don't do for myself.
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    Good to hear CNG mentioned, it really is the way to go.
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