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why does GM allow toyota to say they have most powerful truck?
plane replied to Newbiewar's topic in General Motors
http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/produ...ibu_Maxx_SS.pdf The VVT engine will do 240 quite nicely. Are you sure you saw the Impala advertised at 240? Or on a Window sticker? GM is probably the most honest, best regarded manufacturer when it comes to vehicle horsepower. All the GM SAE specs are posted online - http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/...other/index.htm. Still waiting for Toyota and Honda to do the same with independently verified SAE results. Waiting. Patiently waiting. Rip Van Winkle timescale waiting. Sequoia Trees are born and die, waiting. Tectonic plates form continents, waiting. -
Wow! Look at HHR versus PT Cruiser retail sales. Buh-bye Cruiser - now severely eating HHR dust. Nitro - looks like that's doing well. Torrent and Equinox aren't in the same size range? ?????? Can't wait to see the Pilot sales nosedive as more Acadias, Enclaves, and Outlooks hit the street. We're half way into the year and we've only sold 69,000 Tundras. Where are the $99 lease deals? Will someone pay you $10,000 to take a Tundra? Can we use the new Tundras for Monster Truck fodder? Has "Tundra" passed Yugo" as the most worthless unreliable ugly vehicle you can purchase???? The magic 8 ball says "Don't bet against it". Just remember, that 200K sales goal must be reached at all costs on or before December 31, 2007.
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Are Toyota door handle splinters and shards giving you a nice handshake? Did your Tundra engine suddenly explode with a loud clatter of camshaft parts flying asunder? Did your previous model Tundra rust right out from under you? Or break in half after you tried to snowplow? Is your '92 Tercel burning more oil than gas? Did you forget to change your Camry's oil every 500 miles and you're now paying the "Toyota Premium" for your negligence? Are you sick and tired of dealing with smarmy, self-conceited, take it or leave it deals at your local Toyota dealer? Are you sad because your 210 horsepower Camry really only puts out 190 horsepower? Are you upset because your Prius can't run in the snow and stops suddenly on the highway? Right in front of a Freightliner? And what about your children? Is it ok for Toyota to disable the air bag just to save $10 on a recall rather than protect your family? Does it bother you that your "Toyota tough" SUV is riding on the same platform as your great-grandmohter's Camry? Have you tried taunting the Loch Ness Monster from inside your Tundra Crew Cab with no visible results? Are you really, really, really p.o'd because your Tacoma just went up in flames proving once and for all it isn't really meteor-proof? Could Joe Isuzu fit right in at Toyota? Are you happy that Toyota made $12 BILLION last year, but still wants to cut your wages in half? Is it acceptable that Toyota wants to import more vehicles and produce less locally? Are you finally convinced that all the unsold Tundras slowly decaying in massive parking lots are actually the cause of global warming? Yes, consumers everywhere are finally waking up to the fact that Toyota is $&*%. Spoon-fed, lapped up, regurgitated yuppy jumped the shark $&*%, but $&*% nonetheless. This commercial message brought to you by the repeatedly injured and summarily fired for knowing too much Georgetown Workers.
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It looks almost as good as that new Hyundai. Not quite. But almost. It's amazing how far Toyota has fallen since starting to cheap out their interiors and dumb down their exteriors just to save $$$ on assembly. A single tear rolls down his face.
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If the Aura is so much better, why is GM playing games?
plane replied to GXT's topic in General Motors
WHAT A RIPOFF! WHAT AN ABSOLUTE SUBTREFUGE! GXT HAS CAUGHT GM REDHANDED!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE - Where's the comparison that shows the Aura 6-speed going up against 5-speed competitors???? Why would anyone choose a six-speed when that old-trusty 5-speed works well, except during Honda recalls? I feel really gipped right now. It's probably worth a call to my Congressional Representative. Maybe even an anonymous tip or two to the FBI. -
Where's the Tundra love? Where has all the Tundra love gone? Why doesn't anybody love this pig? The overbudget plant has nothing to do with this discussion. It can't be just the bizzaro interior. Maybe it's the fuel economy. Sucking down $3.76 a gallon gas. Or the cheap-s stamped metal suspension. And don't even try to blame it on the flex-frame. The bed jumping up and down is a design feature. Or the timing belt when it snaps in two. Or the 4-star safety rating when you're crashed, and burned and dying. Or the Toyota exploding camshafts, it's just the way it is. Where's the Tundra love? Where has all the Tundra love gone?
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Thanks for the great welcome flybrian. I've only been online for about a month now. For less than $3300, lots of ebay hunting and several months of soldering and intricate breadboard construction, I just put together an awesome system - 8086 DOUBLE overclocked to 8 mhz. 14400 TURBO modem. IBM PC Jr. keyboard and 256 color 12 inch monitor. The monitor is a BIG upgrade from my old 7" Compaq green screen. MS-DOS 6.0 with Quarterdeck Memory manager. 1MB of prime Kingston memory. I'm also learning the latest in computer technology - If you have any questions about Pine, Lynx, Gopher or ftp, just let me know. I'm working on my consulting gigs, writing batch files with edlin. Fingers crossed for success. The half an hour I wait every morning just to see your website makes life worthwhile. Keep up the good work. GM rules. Imports suck. Your site rocks. Yep. That's about it.
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What's wrong with the Nitro? ???? I can understand Compass. But Nitro? Come on. Somebody please help me out here.
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With the 5.7. Anyone care to guess what's hiding beneath the covers for the 4.7?
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Let's get down to business, shall we? Where are the confidence intervals? Statistics provided at, preferably the 99% confidence level or better. The numbers are statistically meaningless without that information. What are the intra and inter-model and make correlations? Are we looking at real data or just differences in noise level due to sample size effects? What about sampling bias **cough** Consumer Reports **cough** And to the matter at heart, what is the strict definition of a "problem"? I laugh a little inside everytime I see an import fan trumpet what appear to be quite meaningless numbers. "I'm not sure whether I'm right 1 times out of 100 or out of a million, but it looks like if you own a GM, you will likely have 0.2 more "problems" on average". How really meaningful is that 0.2 problem and what does that mean to the average consumer? Edit: Just look at the 2007 disclaimer.
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Geez. What's the big deal? Everybody knows it's a design feature. Whu? Huh? Why is everybody laughing at that? What's so funny about a Tundra flying apart? A little bed scrapage never hurt anyone.
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That picture actually looks quite good. I know I said the same thing when i saw the first photos - back to square? Bad idea. Honda and Toyota have a taken a very specific shape and simply refined it to provide steadily increasing marketshare. Did Chrysler "taste-test" this new design language or was it just - hey let's do something different, this might work? Here's hoping that's not the case. And that the interiors, features, and gas mileage will all be class-leading.
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Criticising Toyota is not tired. Criticising Toyota is not intellectually dishonest. It's actually quite refreshing. Especially considering GM's newfound rennaisance. Intellectually dishonest would be the Toyota apologist, like Freidman and perhaps yourself, that somehow claims Toyota is better for our economy. When nothing could be further from the truth. Just one tiny example - General Motors is the single largest provider of health care in this country. Apologist would be condoning a company that refuses to fix an acknowledged air bag defect, but is instead ready and willing to disable that safety equipment all in the name of greed and profit. Why don't you put your younger son or daughter in that front seat. It's Toyota so it must be safe right? Apologist would be blaming vehicle owners for a sludge problem. Three million owners must be wrong, inconsiderate, fat and lazy. Apologist would be sweeping under the rug exploding cam shafts in a new vehicle or hybrid vehicles that suddenly stall on the highway. Unfortunately for your perspective, the media finally seems willing to criticize some of Toyota's bad habits. And none too soon at that.
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Exactly. Picking on Toyota is unAmerican.
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Yeah. Like he said. Somebody needs to stop picking on Toyota. Right now. Just ignore the Toyota-filled rental lots. It will make the rest of this much easier. No more mention of sludged engines. No more exploding camshaft stories. If Toyota want's to disable pickup safety features rather than fix the problem, that's none of our business. No more articles about groping Toyota executives. Oh what a feeling. It doesn't matter that around 50% of Toyota's vehicles are imported, Toyota is still better for the economy. Even when your friends and neighbors lose their jobs at the GM plant, they can still buy a used Toyota. And no more ridicule for poorly-selling trucks. Everybody got that? Hopefully this puts this matter to rest for good.
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Vue Equinox Torrent Escape Mariner Nitro Crossovers that need to go....... Outlander Compass Rondo Tuscon Jiangling Landwind X6 This link is for Emergency use only!!!!!!
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????? I've never seen any Toyota commercials at Saturnfans.
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The Aura or the Vue or both? Just about everyone has ripped the Aura for that. The Vue panels aren't that bad in person. It's the arm-rests that kill me.
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The Aura is a much nicer vehicle than Car and Driver is willing to admit. Vue Greenline Owner Less than 3k miles. 24 mpg last tank and climbing in nearly 100% city driving (driven fairly hard too). The engine is no match for a 3500, that's for sure. But it is also anything but raucus. It's peaceful pulling up to the stoplight. Everything shuts off. No noise, no vibration. The BAS pickup is smooth as butter. Considering the $600 tax credit for the Vue that replaced a 16 mpg minivan. At $3.40/gallon and 10k miles per year, the "extra" for the hybrid is paid off in 2 years.
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... and you thought GM had some bad crash test results?
plane replied to the_yellow_dart's topic in The Lounge
What a great clip. That is amazing. Fold and Stow Cab - a VW design first. -
Wow! That's fantastic news! Thanks for the heads up! Getting a Camry was the next thing on my list. Well, almost next on my list. There's just a few things more pleasurable than buying and driving a Camry that I need to get out of the way first. Like.... There's the sixteen week-week no food no water diet. Followed by a round or two of "How many sledgehammer impact body blows and head shots does it take to yell uncle?". Then diving in peanut butter and hanging out with a herd of rabid chipmunks. Maybe spend a week or two down at the sewage treatment plant to see what Dirty Jobs is really like. And finishing up by chopping my head off with a salad spoon. But yeah, right after that, it's the Camry.
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I agree. It should do just fine. A class-leading minivan would work great for Chevrolet. It would be nice to see Chevy steal some real minivan sales from Honda and Toyota.
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Ok Dave. Then why would GM put out $1-2B for Spring Hill when the Michigan plant isn't even up to capacity with 2 shifts?????? Remember, its the newest state-of-the-art flexible manufacturing plant. It can switch vehicles in mid-stream without stopping the line. Hmmm. Add a shift when demand picks up or spend $$$$$$$$$ for <almost> an entirely new plant. Considering that GM is skating the edge of bankruptcy, how do you explain that?
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onoez. The end is near for Chevy and we haven't even seen it yet. Prediction - The Traverse isn't going to be anything like anyone is expecting.
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Sketch Competition #16 - (Alpha Pontiac/NG G6) Voting
plane replied to Flybrian's topic in Sketch Competitions
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