A Horse With No Name

Doubt that there is any way to get it running. That much time under water and the rings, mains, transmission seals, etc. would be shot. Wonder if they will be able to read the microfilm to see who wins the "new" 1957 automobile. Chris

The 1st gen Saturn tends to feel "cheap" however they hold up damned well up here in the rust belt. Your pick of the MINI Cooper would be possibly higher if A. the car weren't tested on those stupid run flat tires and B. it was more reliable than it is... Ford just needs to belly up to the bar and bring the "real" Focus here to the states. Chris

Actually, Sciguy I prefer the Malibu. Chris

Not crackin wise...You OWN a 64...OMG...what kind of condition is it in? 4 speed or auto? I am not even sure what to ask or where to start. Chris

Stuff like the Lesabre Grand national is the kind of stuff I'd like to learn about. Balthazar-Do you know much about the early 1960's Pontiacs, especially Grand Prix models? It has been forever and a day since I have seen one of the early Grand Prix cars. Back in 93 or 94 wehn the 66 Stang was freshly painted I parked near one at a car show. Before that I saw two complete ones in a salvage yard in Muncie indiana in the late 1970's...and a stripped shell in an Ohio Salvage yard a few years ago. Think we might have had one at the Dublin, Ohio Arthritus show a few years ago also. Seriously, though, what can I lean/you tell me about the early 1960's Pontiacs? Chris

In the late 70's they Bult one car one year (77 I think in Corvette chartreuse, in about 1980 they built one in light metallic blue, and in 2002 0r 2003 they built one in purple as a reward for aplant employee. Chris

Storing it with a vault that was drained might have solved a lot of the problems also. Hopefull but probably junk. Chris

Let's not forget that the Malibu is just plain better put together also. I'd much rather live with a 3 year old 50,000 mile Malibu than a 3 year old 50,000 mile Sebring. Chris

Not impressed. I liked the Accords much better in the 80's and 90's when they were more simple and straitforward. ...and yes, Brian the Civic is much nicer by comparison. Chris

Let's say a prayer to Thor or Zeus or whomever that the Astra sells well also. With the price of gas Gm will need to get into this section of the market. Chris

I would like to learn about as many GM "high performance" and "oddball" special cars as possible. For instance, the 66 W-30 tripower Cutlass, a very rare bird. GM even built one that was turquoise with a yellow vynal top and a red interior so that it would show up well on the dragstrip. Olds Achieva SCX, rare, rare bird, like the Neon ACR but much, much rarer. Or the "Heavy Chevy" 71 Chevelle. Or any of the other quad 4 specials. Or the "Anniversary Olds" that was build for olds 50th anniversay in very limited numbers in the 1950's. Or the first OHV pontiac V8's. Or... But I am having trouble finding info. Library searches are reaching dead ends. I read Automotive Quarterly and Hemmings but they are only so-so at being helpful. Does anyone have any ideas? Chris

When you build cars that last 90 days your problem level at 6 months is real low. I can't imagine buying a Kia. I would rather have the Renault that Fly posted photo's of in the other thread. Every time I gas up I try to ask the person gasing up next to me..."Hey, your driving a _____. How do you like it?" I have yet to meet a happy Kia owner. They are absolute utter unimaginably $h!ty, $h!ty cars. Chris

Exactly. In long term dependability I would bet serious cash that damned near any GM vehicle (Astrovan, Cavalier, Aztec, whatever you want to keep in the mix-keep them all in the mix) is probably more reliable than anything from Europe and equal to or better anything from Korea. Probably better. Long term wise I am really interested to see where the newest generation of GM cars stack up. Chris

The Durango sounds like it might make a nice trade in on a Colorado Crew Cab. The Colorado will get close to the original beatle in fuel economy and be infinitely better in terms of safety, reliability, comfort, hauling capacity, emissions/damage to the environment, ride quality, etc. I'm all for small cars, but this is going a little too far. Besides, the Bug could be a good donor for a Manx buggy for a summer car.... Chris

Welcome, and I hope you enjoy it here. Unlike the Mustang forums that seem to be over-run with people who are dumber than my cat, there are some really intelligent people here. Now let's get back to all the good BS about GM. Chris

Exactly...if it makes you feel any better my wife loves our xB, but right now she is lusting after an HHR. Which in a lot of ways is a better vehicle-smoother ride, better highway manners, cool retro styling, Onstar, etc. While I own a Scion I like the direction that Saturn is taking much better than Scion. Saturn has allowed itself to be re-defined because the market has been re-defined. Scion meanwhile has painted itself into a corner as a "youth market" brand. If I was to be asked which was goping to be around as a car company in fifteen years I would put money on Saturn being here and Scion being gone, Chris

The 3 is indeed a hell of a car.... Chris

they actually might sell a lot of them in a hurry. Chris

Say what you will, but Toyota/Scion are moving these things. Hate it all you want but there is a waiting list around here to get the new xB. Chris

Saw a Wild looking restored Volkswagen Kharman Ghia in Coral Pink. Does that count? Chris

Nor can our local dealer keep the Prius in stock. Chris

I hate to admit it but your right, damned right. Chris

Let's not insult the Koreans. Chris

Mini up 12.5%! Chris

Actually I am suprised Mazda scores so low. What is more telling is to go drive cars that are 5 years old/100,000 miles. G.M. products hold up better than a lot of other cars. Chris