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"quiet" "no parties" no "people who cook wierd smelly stuff" "I have three very quiet and clean cats!" And I have never been on a date in my life......

that's been going on forever, it's just more widely available now. Photographers from the 20's and 30's used to whittle down actresses hips (look at photos of Mae West), and George Hurrell retouched the crap out of his pictures. There's a book on his photography covering the process showing a before and after of Joan Crawford. The before shows a pretty woman with a few laugh lines around the eyes, slightly frizzy hair and a face and chest covered with freckles. After retouching she looked like this:

Even the best of them can get caught. I've seen two photos on the pages of very respected national newspapers in the past ten years that were clearly photoshopped, and only one of them was caught by the paper.

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I wonder if there isn't more to this that simply is not going to be addressed. Not that it's any excuse, but how damaging could it be for someone to be on a hit series for years and suddenly be in career free-fall? I've worked tangentially in show-biz and I know how much these guys on hit TV shows are treated: everything you do is fantastic, nobody ever tells you "no", your every utterance, no matter how banal is treated like the funniest thing ever uttered, and to top it off, you're paid more in a week than most people are paid in three years. What happens to you after that's gone? You've been on a hit series for 8 years, then your own series tanks, then 6 years later you're taking voice-over work and appearing at the Laugh Factory and people are heckling you? Ten years ago executives at NBC would have cheerfuly licked your 'nads and now people are HECKLIING YOU!?!?! It's not pretty and it doesn't make it all right, but it does sort of explain the meanness of it in a Baby Jane sort of way.

The Zune has a wireless sharing feature, but I don't know how useful it is: it only works (of course) with other Zunes, and the person you share the song with can listen to it only three times within three days before you have to buy the song from the Zune store- and you can never send them the song again. Of course, by creating the Zune, Microsoft has left the Zen out in the cold since plays-for-sure is now history. Not an issue if you are starting fresh, but if you have files from Napster or another service that used it, you'll have to burn them to disc as MP3's and re-rip them A couple of small points, the Zune store at this point doesn't have podcasts, video downloads or audiobooks, which may not matter a damn to you. It does have an FM receiver, which is a nice addition, I guess. If you can wait, I'd suggest waiting until MacWorld in January to see what they introduce. If not, I suggest getting your iPod Video from SmallDog electronics in Vermont; they have a trade-in program so if Jobs introduces a new iPod Video that's light-years better you can upgrade when it comes out.

Well, actually yes, I did. I've driven an 88 deVille and an 89 SL back to back for a while back in the early 90's. The deVille was a pig on the twisties (you could get carsick on Coldwater Canyon) but on the freeway and in the city was pure butter; I drove back to LA from Santa Barbara at 50 along PCH and got about 30 mpg with that patented "youjustsitbacknowandwe'llhandleit" feel. The Benz was a tank at low speed but was laser sure at high speed. In town the Caddy was all about swaddling: you really didn't even want to go fast, what with all of that leather and the climate control and the stereo: all it needed was a pacifier. The Benz was all cold hard surfaces and handling that you needed to hit 60 to appreciate. I loved the SL, and I wish I had one today, but I have to write that the current SL has borrowed a hell of a lot from the 80's deVille than Germany would ever want to admit.

The other solution is to microwave your soup

As an aside, I've just seen "Borat". If you want to see displays of manflesh that will put you off your soup, this is the movie. If Jake is Venus de Milo, this movie if the Venus of Villendorf. It's also a total hoot.

I hate to say it, but although I like your sig, I get the spinning rainbow icon at home a lot. You've even clogged me at work. God knows how, I thought we had a T-1 line

Razoredge- I don't think anyone here thinks you're evil or anything. It just seems like so much of an overreaction that photos that would be a ho-hum on "Tiger Beat" were reacted to as if they were snaps from "Drummer" I've seen a lot more (well, I haven't but I've heard) the Abercrombie catalog has worse. I think a lot of us who never paid attention to the original thread question why it bacame such an issue that there was one page of shirtless pouty pretty boys. I mean, I would be far happier to get Jake Gyllenhaal for Christmas (well, actually, I'd like Vin Diesel if Santa's reading) but pix of girls for me range from "why do guys find plastic boobs and collagen lips attractive" to "Allyson Hannigan is smoking hot and if I were even trying to be straight I'd totally do her" with a bit of "hope her husband Alexis Denisof would join in" That's most likely TMI Maybe this should be locked too. Shouldn't post after drinks...

It used to mystify me until a friend of mine got one (a small Ford). If you have anything at all to haul, they are fantastic. We used it to go to plant sales, Costco, tons of places where a station wagon of SUV would be less of use. Too bad some ba$7ard totalled it when it was parked in front of their house, and it was so old they didn't keep collision insurance on it.

Are crew cabs more popular? I noticed that the photos of the new Toyota whatever-it-is also had a lot more photos of the crew cab as opposed to the regular

was the other guy warned? I say don't go as well. There are too many interesting people on this site to drop it for one person you can't stand. I highly recommend the "user ignore" feature.

I think it's fairly hilarious that he tries to diss deLorenzo for being on the domestic's payroll when it's fairly well known that the domestic automakers, especially GM have whethered some pretty serious scorn on his part. Edmunds always manages to find some little complaint about a domestic car that makes it inferior to it's foreign rivals, like the review of the SRX's interiors "so-so design and materials quality"... gee, I guess they didn't know about how it's one of the "vehicles that show GM can get interiors right if they want to", or was this one of the bold, fearless opinions of their editors?

I'm with Capt. Picard. Although I did go through a Soda. Diet Pepsi. Cold. phase

I think my feelings about this administration are well known, and I find it sad that in this day and age and after all that our forefathers fought for that disagreement with government policies and leadership is automatically branded as un-American.

Events Highlights: (since it was such an important day) June 20th 1161 - I am born 1214 - University of Oxford receives its charter. 1782 - The U.S. Congress adopts the Great Seal of the United States. 1837 - Queen Victoria succeeds to the British throne. 1863 - West Virginia is admitted as the 35th U.S. state. 1877 - Alexander Graham Bell installs world's first commercial telephone service in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. 1893 - Lizzie Borden is acquitted of murdering her stepmother and father. 1948 - Toast of the Town, later The Ed Sullivan Show, debuts. 1963 - The so-called "red telephone" is established between Soviet Union and United States following the Cuban Missile Crisis. 1963 - Leave it to Beaver ends. 1973 - Ezeiza massacre in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Snipers fired upon left-wing peronists. At least 13 are killed and more than 300 injured. 1977 - Oil begins to flow through the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System (TAPS). 1980 - Roberto Duran starts his classic boxing trilogy with Sugar Ray Leonard by defeating him in Canada by a decision in 15 rounds, to gain the WBC world Welterweight championship. 2001 - Andrea Yates drowns her five children in a bathtub in their Houston, Texas home. 2001 - Pervez Musharraf becomes president of Pakistan Births 19XX - Martin Landau, Actor 1942 - Brian Wilson, American popular music composer and singer; founder of The Beach Boys 1945 - Anne Murray, Canadian singer 1946 - Bob Vila, television presenter 1947 - Candy Clark, American actress 1949 - Lionel Richie, American musician and singer (The Commodores) 1951 - Paul Muldoon, Northern Irish poet 1952 - John Goodman, American actor 1952 - Larry Riley, American actor (d. 1992) 1967 - Nicole Kidman, Australian actress 1968 - Robert Rodríguez, American filmmaker

It's available on iTunes. Punkrocker (featuring Iggy Pop) by the Teddybears

Nice way to get upset with someone who was agreeing with your right to have your own belief system. I never wrote that marriage was only the provenance of the church; marriages are both perfomed by the state as well as being recognized by it. My point was that no one outside is trying to force any church to do so. If any church decides to change that policy, that is up to them.

And you are entitled, as is your church to that belief. That is why no-one is forcing your church to perform these cermonies. It's not the government's role to protect the "sanctity" of marriage, it's the churches. Just as the Catholic church used to not recognise second marriage after a civil divorce, religion has to right to bless or not bless any relationship they see fit.

I have an iBook that's still going pretty strong. I've always used it elevated on a book or something so it can get proper cooling.

I walked right by that filming site and didn't even register the car....