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Wow. I think it looks just awful. The windshield and vent windows look like something from a van conversion and the roofline and trunk is incredibly awkward.

I saw a luscious 77 Seville Elegante (two-tone black over platinum) in downtown LA today. It was absolutely cherry, and absolutely gorgeous.

another ad to get PETA's knickers in a serious Frist.

Geesh- I didn't know there was more than one kind of Chex mix.

I live in California in a city that has red-light cameras. If you even park here without a fron plate, you'll get a ticket.

About 12 years ago, I was driving the '88 Coupe deVille that belonged to my friend's mother. She was old and had Parkinsons, and lived near me. I'd take her out twice a week to the market or the hairdresser, and kept the car at my house. This Caddy was the paragon of quiet good taste (NOT!), with it's pearl white paint, fake cabrio roof and gold badges. It also had a great stereo, air-conditioning that could cool all of the valley, and that lackadaisical living-room feel hated by auto magazines that nakes you want to listen to Frank Sinatra and drive with one finger. Anyway, I was driving west on Third street by Cedars after seeing Ida into the house and on my way to my place on Oakhurst Drive. Apparently I was not going fast enough for the dude in the Porsche behind me- if I had stopped short and popped the trunk, I could have taken him home. At Robertson, he got into the right turn only lane, Since there was no traffic and no "No right turn on red" sign, it didn't take too many IQ points to realise that he was going to show me exactly what the pride of Germany could do to the big American pig car. I let him rev his little engine all he wanted, and the nanosecond I saw the light turned green, I stomped the go pedal. Sadly for Mr Porsche, he had to shift, and that GM low end torque just got the better or him. I shot through the intersection, and he had to get behind me again. Poor bunny. Forced to do the speed limit until he went north on Doheny. Must have killed him. I loved that car. It's tires screamed like a banshee and you needed a dramamine drip on Coldwater Canyon Drive (although I've never driven a car that was not severely challenged by Coldwater between Ventura and Mulholland), but on the freeway and most city streets it was like piloting a very comfortable club car. And that AC- amazing! I remember taking it to Costco to get some stuff for my friend's mom's house. After a few hours parked in the valley, starting the car the climate control was practically chucking crushed ice at us to cool off the interior.

Was it copper colored? I think I saw it too when I was leaving the Pavillions lot in West Hollywood on my way home. In which was parked a gorgeous red XLR.

Great- So this means I should ditch the Honda and get a Solstice?

I am so jealous I could explode... Fly- I grew up in New England, and on days in winter when it was not sleeting, I'd pop the top on my car and crank up the heat. A scarf and a hat would take care of it. At least in New England.

yeah- remember when the Riviera had the touch-screen CRT for the HVAC? Every car mag on earth ripped GM a new one. Of course, when BMW added one.......

I love that his Euro-bias is so bad that he has to revise history- and ignore his own sentence. He writes: then Yes, Cadillac was so much apeing BMW they managed to get in the Wayback machine and get the Evoq out two years before the first Bangled Bimmer appeared at Frankfurt, and debut the CTS at Pebble Beach a month before that auto show of that 7-series. Who knew Cadillac was that clever? I guess that the journalistic standards in the Empire upon which the sun has long set doesn't include spending three minutes on the internet to check his facts.......

The one point that I VIOLENTLY disagree with is the return to the September introductions for all cars. That's great if you are certain that every new car is ready for prime-time, but if it's not, what do you do? Release it knowing that it has problems? Wait another year to let the fixed one out? PR nightmare either way. No car company can afford to do that these days, not even the Japanese.

That's what I was thinking. It looks like a fat Acura.

Please don't post copyrighted material. Tribune Inc gets very testy about that.

I've got a '93 Civic in the muy macho shade Honda like to call "Camellia Red Metallic". I'd not be thrilled if a shop wrecked it, but I'd still majorly stick it to them on the insurance. I couldn't get a Solstice, but I could get a used Miata.

No, but they have chocolate. Let's start a boycott of that. you can start Here

You were stuck with shrimp? I'd be happy to take your place. I've never been that big on turkey. A big pile of fettucine con quattro fromaggi with a big pile of grilled shrimp would make me truly thankful...

I think you have to pop the back portion of the top (butresses) up to get into the trunk. I've seen two here in LA. A Silver one a few weeks ago and a triple black one the other day being driven up Santa Monica Blvd by the rat-bastard who stole my life.........

I had that haircut. In 1986.

I stayed home and watched Bond movies. BTW- your knee "popping" out is not good. It sounds like you are dislocating it. YOu should at least have an ace banadage on it.

I think it must be chemical. I don't have a type (other than male and breathing). I like tall, but it's not a deal breaker. I tend to go for the opposite of me: I usually like dark hair skin and eyes (I'm pale, with light brown hair and light green eyes), but I've dated everyone from blonds to African Americans. I guess after the first rush of "are you hot" is the question of "do we have anything to talk about?" or "are you a nice person?" and the all-important "do you have any integrity?" and "do we make each other laugh?" In a stunning display of irony, the gods have conspired to grace me with several people who fill up the last four, and for me theoretically fill up the first one. Academically for me, since they are girls. God said "Ha" indeed.

I'm sorry, read the lyrics to "My Humps" by the Black Eyed Peas and tell me there's a country music song that's worse.........

Well, I suppose I should say the '61, since my Father bought my Mother a '61 Impala SS sedan as a present for being pregnant with me (however, she gave up a '57 Bel Air convertible, sooooo...) but I always thought that the '72 was one of the best looking Chevy's ever. Actually, I think the '72 GM B-bodies were pretty nice all around.

Isn't that kind of like Tara Reid calling Paris Hilton slutty? Pot, meet kettle. Carlos, it's that hard black thing coming upside your head. :rolleyes:

As one of those evil liberals, I have to say that I really do care about the American factory worker. Enough that I actively write my congressmen and women trying to force them to crack down on corporations that want to offsource freaking EVERYTHING so that American factory workers next jobs will be at McDonalds while the CEO's will be happily vacationing in Aspen. I'll never understand why people make such a bit freaking deal about Michael Moore having his "million dollar apartment" in New York (this just in kids, that's the average median price in Manhattan) as being proof that he's an evil, out of touch liberal, but nobody ever takes Rush Limbaugh to task for his bazillion dollar Florida manse, or his penchant for checking into the Connaught in London to indulge his passion for illegal-in-America Cuban cigars. Sorry- I love GM, and I am willing to cut them a lot of slack- I think the media is biased and doesn't cut them a break on a lot of stuff, but GM is also responsible for building some pretty crappy and out of touch cars for a long time. They refused to believe that the market had changed, and apparently surrounded themselves with enough people who blew sunshine up their collected a$$es for long enough for the Japanese to actually build good enough cars to take the market away from them. Even today, they take three steps forward and two steps back. They put out two products that show what they can do, then put out 6 others that look like focused-group snooze mobiles. I've read a lot of people here on this board decry the evil, greedy unions for not wanting to take a 60% pay cut. Well, I don't now about you, but if I had to take that much of a hit on my income, I'd be homeless. The fact that Michael Moore made a documentary that chronicled just that history in Flint (or Columbine, or 9-11, which I've seen and does not state that Iraq was candyland, just mentions a few nasty truths, like they didn't attack us) makes him an evil uncaring lib, it makes him a documentary film-maker. Oh, and as far as how caring and sharing GM upper management is, I'd be a whole hell of a lot more impressed with them if they said that all of them were willing to take a salary of $1 for this year and next (and no expense re-imbursment- no Steve Jobs-style free private aircraft or stock options) in the spirit of sharing the burden with the workers at the plants they're shutting down. :angry: