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MERCEDES-BENZ USA Sales -- November 2019 Mercedes-Benz Passenger Vehicles Nov-19 Nov-18 Monthly % YTD 2019 YTD 2018 Yearly % A-CLASS 1,544 _ _ 16,475 _ _ B-CLASS* 0 0 0.0% 9 134 -93.3% CLA 1,641 1,832 -10.4% 11,056 20,848 -47.0% C-CLASS 4,469 5,777 -22.6% 45,740 53,610 -14.7% E-CLASS/CLS 3,689 5,181 -28.8% 36,770 41,380 -11.1% S-CLASS 1,452 1,672 -13.2% 11,441 13,492 -15.2% SLC 62 149 -58.4% 1,693 1,841 -8.0% SL 100 181 -44.8% 1,550 1,968 -21.2% AMG GT 534 103 418.4% 3,763 1,389 170.9% GLA 2,461 2,411 2.1% 20,041 21,739 -7.8% GLC 7,515 6,199 21.2% 67,214 62,433 7.7% GLE 6,052 3,988 51.8% 44,193 42,276 4.5% GLS 2,893 2,761 4.8% 19,323 19,308 0.1% G-CLASS 1,309 768 70.4% 6,532 3,525 85.3% TOTAL 33,721 31,022 8.7% 285,800 283,943 0.7% Vans1 3,542 1,857 90.7% 36,650 34,062 7.6% MBUSA Combined Total Nov-19 Nov-18 Monthly % YTD 2019 YTD 2018 Yearly % GRAND TOTAL 37,263 32,879 13.3% 322,450 318,005 1.4% *Model has been discontinued in the U.S. market. 1Mercedes-Benz, Freightliner Sprinter and Metris Vans are sold and marketed in the U.S. by Mercedes-Benz USA and Daimler Vans USA, respectively. They did release them.

I bet Renault/Nissan is wishing they had that FCA merger right about now. Because not only are their sales in a spiral, they rely a lot on rental fleets for Nissan/Infiniti sales also, so they aren't even profitable sales. Infiniti has nothing in their line up, that brand is more dead in the water than Lincoln was a couple years ago. Really they are a lot like FCA in terms of product offering but don't have the storied brand names like Jeep or Alfa Romeo in the stable or have the marketing ability that Dodge has to keep older than dirt product alive with trim packages, styling tweaks and Hellcat engines, etc.

Mercedes outsold BMW in November, and is now positive for the year. E-class outsold 5-series S-class outsold 7-series AMG GT outsold 8-series GLC outsold X3 GLE outsold X5 GLS outsold X7 G-wagen sales up 70% Mercedes-AMG models up 18.9%

These guys lost to Mercedes this month. Nice to see the 3-series selling big, at least some people still buy cars and haven't given up on life and bought a boring crossover.

Genesis benefitting from those Monday Night Football halftime shows. Although they still only sold 2,000 cars.

I like the original front end more, the back looks the same, seems like a mid-cycle refresh without too much change. Slight interior upgrade, nice improvements but probably not going to move the sales needle.

Right the new Tesla, and it has rocket thrusters and like 7,000 lb-ft of torque.

The tri-motor Cybertruck would win a tug of war against a Super Duty F350, probably with ease due to the electric motors. In fact, I bet the Tesla Roadster would win a tug of war with an F350.

Genesis needs a SUVs and they’ll be fine. The Palisade is better than the new Explorer based on reviews so make a luxury version and it will beat Lincoln or Infiniti or the XT6 and Genesis will have sales.

Hyundai reliability seems to have been stealing sedan and crossover sales of GM and Ford for years, thus why the Elantra and Sonata are still here and Focus, Cruze and Fusion are not. Cadillac’s global volume is about 300k units, Audi, BMW and MB are over 2 million so Cadillac has some work to do in that regard. Genesis even more so.

I am not comparing Palisade to a Tahoe, I am saying Hyundai can make something bigger than Palisade with a turbo 6 or V8. I doubt they care to enter that market though. German luxury sedans sell, they still do okay here, better than others, but they sell in Europe and China too. Lexus GS, Cadillac CTS, Infiniti Q-whatever all rely on USA for the bulk of their sales and they don’t even sell here.

I don't think it has to be body on frame, the Cybertruck isn't and can out-tow and out-haul an F150. A 4x4 Expedition tows 9,200 lbs when properly equipped and a Tahoe is 8600 lbs. And both those are like 6,500 lbs in standard set up. A unibody Mercedes GLS is 7500, so we aren't talking huge differences, probably not something that is a deal breaker for most buyers. Hyundai could make a BOF chassis, although I highly doubt they would bother, unless they are doing a full size pickup truck. Genesis needs SUVs, they don't need to figure out cars, they could make 1-2 cars and throw 5 SUVs on the market, that is what sells. I was actually thinking earlier, Lincoln will likely be an SUV only company by 2021, Cadillac by 2024 (maybe CT5 stays, CT4 and CT6 will be dead by then), Lexus will be down to ES and LS, Infiniti the Q50 and Acura a TSLX class sedan. I could see those 5 luxury brands making a total of 5 sedans by 2024. And maybe NSX and LC stick around as halo coupes, but the American and Japanese luxury brands are going to run away from cars. Genesis is wasting time in a dying market that the Germans have already won and pushed everyone else out of.

Is it better than a Telluride? Palisade and Telluride seem to be the top 2 full size crossovers on the market right now. I assume the V6 is enough for 90% of the people that buy this, but always wonder if a turbo V6 would sell, perhaps not to this crowd, maybe on the Genesis version. I guess question 2 is should they make a bigger one to go after Ford Expedition and Tahoe?

Always good to have powertrain options.

I agree, will be their #1 seller, probably they’ll add another SUV. And it looks sort of good but sort of like a Mazda, could be better but isn’t bad. Interior is nice.

And a rotary engine in the Miata crossover also.

They should make a Miata MX-5 X-Cross, 2 seat convertible crossover.

The 450 sells the most since it is the cheapest, pretty much the same as every other vehicle out there, the base engine is the top seller.

Navigator is heavier and GLS has 2 engine upgrades over the 488 hp GLS580, plus all GLS have a 21 hp electric motor.

Underpowered.

It is a Mercedes, it has the Mercedes logo right on it. The Escalade is not in the GLS's league. Escalade is now a 2nd tier luxury SUV, as the Navigator. Rolls, Bentley, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Aston Martin, Maybach are the big boys now. Even Audi with the RS Q8 has a 190 mph SUV, BMW X8 is on the way, G-wagen still there too.

Oh good, another crossover coupe thing. Makes total sense that the model between 3 and 5 is the 30, and not the CX-4. Hopefully they come up with a CX-60 to slot above the CX-5.

Maybach is about bling and showing off, I think that is why they want the bright chrome. They should put this 550 hp V8 in the Maybach S-class, maybe that is coming on the next generation, because I do feel like the Maybach should have a power bump over the standard model.

The Maybach S-class integrates the lower grille better, and this is probably the Chinese market vehicle, they could always switch out that lower chrome mess piece for the chrome bar with gray mesh behind. And if you don't like that grille there is a GLS580 or a GLS63 that will each have different grilles.

Looks a lot better than the Traxx, and better than a lot of these tiny SUVs. Tiny engine though, good price, I think they'll sell a decent number of them, but it will probably kill off the Trax, unless they get a new model in there. I feel like the Trailblazer should be more up level than the Blazer though, Tracker would have been a better name I think for this vehicle, and they could have used the Trailblazer name on another vehicle like a Wrangler competitor or something.