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You can always go higher. I can't see any GMC being $100k, so there is plenty of room for a Cadillac over top of the Hummer.
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Cadillac needs a roomy mid-size sedan, their current sedans are too small inside. With an EV they could get CT6 interior space in the footprint of a CT4 or CT5. And I assume a big rear drive EV sedan is coming. After Lyriq they need a smaller EV crossover, Escalade next gen should go EV only which would be in the 2027 timeframe so pretty far out there. In the meantime they should do a luxury off roader or lifestyle type vehicle. Cadillacs sell in the Midwest and in Texas where that sort of product works.
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SUV’s are what sell sadly. And once the money crunch hits all car makers they’ll give up on low volume sports cars to throw more SUVs at the market. High demand for the Bronco makes me think there is room for luxury off roaders, G-Wagen and Range Rover and LR Defender are all there are.
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Can't get rid of Cadillac in the USA. If anything you would make Buick China only because most the small Buick SUVs overlap Chevy/GMC products or could be pushed to GMC like an Encore or Envision. And Cadillac could do an XT3 SUV as an entry point in what was Buick pricing.
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They have the most diverse portfolio still, and are #1 selling luxury car brand in 2020 so far. They are cutting models that don't sell, and they have like 50 models, cutting 7 is not big deal. Keep in mind they are also adding EQ C, EQ S, EQ A, EQ B, which is 4 all new models. Rumor is they are adding CLE coupe/convertible, so they are adding 6 models probably over the next 2-3 years. Cadillac has cut 6 of the 7 models they had in 2016. No one is flipping out about them killing 6/7ths of their lineup in 4 years, in fact people applaud it.
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Good information, originally the EQS was supposed to be a 2022 model, they had the concept and drivable prototype last year. But I'd imagine the pandemic has slowed and and EV demand still isn't that high. Although they need the EQS because of what Tesla is going. And the EQE sedan and the SUVs too. My guess is the S-class or E-class will clobber the EV's in sales for about 5 years, maybe closer to 2030 all these things just become electric and that is just the normal.
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Yeah, cutting coupe and convertible versions of the C, E, and S-class and the CLS is probably dead after this generation. There may be a new CLE coupe/convertible coming so they have a convertible that isn’t over $100k in the portfolio. They are cutting vanity products that don’t sell which is smart, there is no shortage of SUVs, they keep adding those.
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Order date doesn't matter, when it is physically sitting on a dealer lot is what matters. Tesla can take 500,000 reservations for a Cybertruck but that is meaningless until there is an actual truck sitting in an actual customer's driveway.
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I have read Lyriq will be on sale late 2022. EQS will be on sale in calendar year 2021. It is pre-prouction interior and they are only showing bits and pieces. I'll reserve judgment on the vehicle and price until when we see the product version. The styling I am not fan of, I assume that will stay pretty similar.
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But the base Model X has 350 miles. And the Lyric is not a Tesla. Tesla is the on fire brand, it represents the future. Cadillac is the past and has an image problem.
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$75k isn't a problem if the car is good. All the interior images shown were computer simulation, so we can't really judge how good the interior is, we don't know what the actual materials will be like. We don't know the horsepower or performance either. It is too far out to judge. I don't get why Cadillac showed it now really without more of a hook to excite buyers. Unless GM just had to show an EV to shareholders to make it look like they were doing something because of Tesla. Tesla is worth 6 times more than GM right now, GM shareholders have to wonder why they are sticking around.
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The issue isn't that Lyriq is 2.5 years away from dealerships, it is that the range they are promising is 50 miles less than what the competitor offers today. I assume a big part of showing the vehicle now is to get people excited and to sign up to buy one like Tesla does or like what Ford did with the Bronco. But Cadillac didn't give a reason to wait 2 years for this car.
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Base Model X today has 351 mile range, Cadillac is targeting 300 miles in 2023. The Model X Performance does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds, and GM won't allow anything faster than a Corvette, so I doubt the Lyriq is going to beat that. And if Tesla has some cash flow, I imagine they'll have new versions of the Model S and X by 2023. Mercedes has over 400 miles of range in the EQS, that will come next year, and EQE and a couple SUVs in 2022, if anyone is going to challenge Tesla I'd imagine it will be Mercedes who will have the battery factories and facilities to make all this stuff and has a customer base used to paying these kind of prices. VW group might also be a big disruptor given their global size and number of brands.
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In the Ward's article they said Steve Carlisle said it would start under $75,000. Without knowing the performance or standard features, it is hard to determine what is a good price point. $75k undercuts the Tesla Model X by $5k, maybe that makes the Lyriq a bargain, or maybe $75k is a rip off, but we don't know yet.
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Cadillac says it will start under $75k, which makes me thinking dual motor with options is pushing $100k. This vehicle better be good if they want Escalade money for it. The Lyriq doesn't have 400 mile range or 350 kwh charge which are the top on market now, this car is 2-3 years away. I don't see what the hook is, other than if you currently have a Cadillac SUV and want an EV. Unless more details are released closer to launch so we have to wait and see.
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Except all 4 of those are E-classes. I don't care if all Cadillacs look the same, I care if Cadillacs look like Chevrolets.
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It doesn't look good, the front looks too much like a Chevy Blazer and the rear end is all messed up. But it is a concept too, so we'll have to see what the production car looks like, and all the interior images they showed were simulated, so we can't really be sure yet how that will look. Would be nice to have heard more specs, like horsepower or performance beyond a targeted 300 mile range. Seems like this will be a 2023 model, so it is a ways off. I don't know why they would show their hand that far out, and I think what they have isn't better than what Tesla was selling a couple years ago.
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Industry News: Average Age of Cars in the U.S. Climbs Again
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Industry News
With work from home I might drive my car twice a week so what is the point of buying a a new car that will sit for all but maybe 2 hours a week? Car prices are also going up and up, offering 7 years loans let automakers get away with that for a while but I don’t think we are going to see 9-10 year new car loans, so monthly payments will just keep rising. And at a time when unemployment is rising. I am surprised car sales have done as well as they have, I wouldn’t be surprised by a 10-12 million SAAR in 2021. -
The Tundra was long in the tooth about 6 years ago
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Cadillac CT5 and CT4, Lexus ES/LS, Acura TLX and Genesis might be the only non-European luxury sedans left by 2021 or 2022.
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This vehicle gets an "F" as it's grade for sportiness. 280 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm? 6 speed auto? Marginal numbers 10 years ago, pathetic by today's standard. Just another victim of the 5-series and E-class which have retired the GS, Q70, RLX, CT6, Continental in the past 12 months.
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Mercedes cars cost more than Chevrolet or Kia. Notice that Mercedes is #1 in global market share for luxury brands. Also Tesla is worth more than Toyota or VW and worth worth and GM, Ford and FCA combined.
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Toyota News: Toyota Yaris Bids Farewell To U.S. After 2020
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Toyota
There are already renderings of a Corolla Cross pickup similar to the Subaru Baja. -
Toyota News: Toyota Yaris Bids Farewell To U.S. After 2020
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Toyota
100% need a Corolla Cross and a Camry Cross, and a Sienna Cross Coupe. If they had a crossover coupe van with a fastback roofline, they could sell them out at $80k per unit. They should do a Supra Cross too, there are a lack of 2-seat SUVs on market right now.
