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That is basically what I said, the 911 is better but you pay more for it. Dress up a 911 Turbo S for $225,000 and it is faster and more luxurious than any Corvette. Plus it is Porsche dealership experience vs Chevrolet dealer experience. For even money at $99k when you can get a loaded Corvette vs a bare bones 911, the Corvette is the better buy all day long. But people shopping 911’s or Ferraris are shopping price they want the best car, most exotic, most wow factor, doesn’t matter what it costs. This is why I have long said GM needs a car above the Corvette, make a Cadillac sports car that starts at $200k and can be built up to $400k. Make an electric super car out of carbon fiber or something that has wow factor.

I get that leading in one or two metrics is meaningless, it is like those commercials that say car A has more standard horsepower than car B, meanwhile car B gets better fuel economy and has 2 option engines that car A doesn’t mention in their commercial. But the Cybertruck has a lot of good metrics, attractive price, and unique styling plus the Tesla brand name. I think it will sell just fine, I’d be shocked if it wasn’t 100k units a year and I think they could do 200k. I am not saying the Cybertruck will outsell the F150, but it will take a little market share from existing trucks.

I just said a lot of good things about Tesla, you know, an AMERICAN car company that builds cars in AMERICA. As for more capability, as I said, higher payload, higher tow rating, larger bed, higher ground clearance, better approach and break over angles. As in, MORE of all those things. GM beats Audi? Look at Cadillac, and then look at Audi. One brand is successful worldwide, the other is a a 6th or 7th place contender in 2 markets. Corvette vs 911, the 911 has a far better interior, more features, more customization, and is faster on a track. But the 911 is also a $100-300k price range car, the Corvette is a $60-125k range sort of car, the Corvette is more of a 718 competitor. The 911 is better than the Corvette but it is also like double the money. Corvette wins on value for dollar, 911 wins if you don't care about money. See, I don't care where a car comes from, I judge the product. Also the Jeep fans, those profits go to the Stellantis mothership in France. And future Jeeps will have Peugeot powertrains, and yet there will be will be people out there that will say "I'll never buy a French car, I buy American!", then go turn around and buy a Jeep with a French powertrain, who's profits go to France. American vs Import is not so simple, like 75% of Buicks are made in Asia, yet most Toyotas sold in the USA are made in the USA. That is why I look at the product and company reputation.

Let's unpack these statements. The Cybertruck has a bigger bed than the F150 EV, and has more payload and tows more. So I don't know how it is just a toy, when it has more capability than the F150. And the Wrangler could be considered a toy, the Hummer is too, and people buy Wranglers and pay stupid money for them ($70k for a 4Xe?). A toy can sell and be profitable, but in this case the Cybertruck is more capable, has better ground clearance and off road capability than a Raptor also, which the base F150 Electric can't beat a Raptor off road. Hummer EV isn't faster than a Cybertruck, Cyber truck has a 2.9 0-60 time, in real world it will beat a C8 Corvette because no one gets the Corvette to hook up right. The Watts to Freedom mode is supposed to be 3.0 but I have also seen 3.5 second estimates, which seems more accurate because the Hummer EV is too heavy. If Hummer had more fans than Tesla, the Hummer brand wouldn't have been killed off 12 years ago. As far as Porsche and Audi go, I think the Taycan and e-Tron have good performance, but not as good as Tesla, they don't have Tesla's range either. So came up short on both regards there. The Porsche/Audi have nicer interiors, but also like no space in them, so I don't know what is going on there, an EV should be spacious, not cramped, the Model S is roomier and more practical, so maybe call interior a tie. But also think of that, Audi and Porsche, who Ford/GM can't dream of competing with on their best day, are struggling to beat Tesla. I don't see how Ford/GM so easily do it. Tesla also made $ 1 Billion profit last quarter, GM lost $800 million. Now one bad quarter is meaningless to GM, but Tesla is making money now, they might actually be able to fund expansion. They are still on the rise and growing fast. No other car company is really growing, the rest are all just maintaining.

We don't know those other trucks will be better than the Cybertruck. I don't see GM, Ford or Rivian making a better EV car/SUV than Tesla, and really Porsche hasn't either for that matter either. Tesla knows EV's, I don't think it is so safe to assume that Ford or GM come out with what is basically their 2nd EV effort (after Bolt and Mustang Mach-E) and beat Tesla. Also all those other EV pickups will look the same, the Tesla will stand out, and it will be like how the Wrangler sells well because it is different and there are 10 similar mid-size SUVs out there that all look basically the same.

Agree, maybe those 3 make it but small boutique style car companies struggle, even JLR and Volvo needed sold to bigger companies. So I see it unlikely that Lucid or Fisker with 1-2 cars will be able to stand alone. I think those companies exist with the hope of being bought out like most tech companies, but I don’t think other car companies are looking to buy them out.

That’s a good acquisition, and Daimler is a global company. The Mercedes F1 team is based in England, makes sense to buy up a British EV motor company.

AMG had the Nurburgring record for SUV, until the Urus beat them, they have the wagon and 4 door car records still, and they are half a second behind a specialty equipped Porsche for overall. Mercedes-AMG have 7 consecutive F1 titles. These people know performance, so I am confident they'll have the performance they need. I also recognize that Tesla might be a more formidable competitor than Audi or BMW have been.

AMG better have some serious performance in the works, and not just on EQS, but even more so on EQE that will be the more performance oriented sedan. It's possible that no one can beat Tesla performance, so Mercedes or anyone else will have to beat them in other ways. Mercedes plans to convert the whole line to EV, not every Mercedes is an AMG speed demon, only like 10-15% are AMG, the bulk of their customers are coming for luxury first. The AMG cars are the ones that will have to match Tesla's performance.

Car 1 dimensions: 196" L x 77" W x 57" tall Car 2 dimensions: 207" L x 76" W x 60" tall This is a bigger size gap than existed between Cadillac CTS and CT6.

There is going to be an AMG version, and EQS is a much bigger car than the Model S. EQE will have an AMG version and I would suspect be a stronger performance, much like how an E63 is faster than an S63 because same powertrain and big weight/size difference between them. It is quite possible too that nothing will beat the Model S Plaid in a straight line, a $700,000 Ferrari ST90 Stradale can't even beat it in a quarter mile. I mean AMG One will surely beat the Plaid, but I don't see any other sedans or even sub $1 million sports cars doing it.

They don't mean anything. They make an S450 and S580, so it was just easier to call the EQS 450 and 580. Essentially the 450 is the inline six equivalent and the 580 is the V8 performance equivalent. Although I thought 580 was always dumb, I don't know why they didn't just stay with 550 or even 560 since that was a displacement badge of their past.

AMG One is supposed to start deliveries this year. I did read today Mercedes wants 50% of their line to be electric by 2025, so they are accelerating that push.

I have always said that Cadillac should build a performance car above the Corvette. Maybe not $3 million but how about $200,000?

67 years making the SL, they have a new SL for 2022 that shares no components with the current SL or current AMG GT. So that’s how committed Mercedes is to sports cars, clean sheet design from ground up. There will be a 2nd generation AMG GT, that is already in the works and it is hard top only. Sure the 911 GT2 took the Nurburgring record back but the AMG One will slaughter it. But this is good, Mercedes and Porsche compete with each other and push each other. If not for Porsche then Mercedes would just build luxury barges. Now I love me a big luxo cruiser, but I am glad Mercedes can make an S-class and and AMG GT and not have to pick one or the other. And Diamler has made $9.5 billion in profits the last 6 months, there isn’t a money problem funding any new cars.

You don't need AWD, but it helps. Unless your grip, traction and aero so so great that you can over come. Also the 911 GT2 RS that has the record was done with after-market equipment that you can get through a dealer or something, it wasn't a stock GT2 RS, like how the AMG GT black that set the record is the same one they sell.

I am not ragging on the Corvette, I am just stating reality. To take 48 seconds out of a Nurburgring lap is a lot of time, almost 1 minute of a 7 minute lap.

On Reason 2, I agree, really you can't drive a V6 Camry at 10/10ths on a street, so the Corvette is more than enough performance for the street. Also why I think they could do the turbo 4 I mentioned, still have like a 4.2 second 0-60 time and and even lighter weight tossable car. But I don't think they'll go below the Stingray. 2023 model they say for Z06 We'll see if the Z06 can match the Black series. I would bet not. They need a 48 second per lap improvement around the Nurburgring from the C8 Stingray to the Z06 to beat the Black Series, no way are they finding 48 seconds, you don't just get that with some extra power or suspension tweaks.

Why not? The next-gen C63/SL63 are going to have a 4 cylinder hybrid with 643 hp. I'd rather have that and get like 40-50 mpg than have the 6.2 V8 in the C8 making 495 hp and get 25 mpg. Adding a turbo 4 Corvette doesn't take anything away, you make it the base starting at $50k, then the current Singray is the middle and the Z06 at the top. That widens out the range and keeps the Corvette more in the Chevy price tier. Then make a Cadillac sports car to compete with these $200k European cars. If they try to market a Chevrolet against a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, etc, that is dead on arrival idea. But I know GM isn't going to do that, they are going to go all in on the Corvette, and push the price up at the high end.

Obviously since there will be an Electric Silverado. And once you have Electric Silverado and Sierra, Tahoe and Yukon are probably to follow.

Corvette is half the cost of an AMG GT, it should sell better in USA, although I bet the world wide numbers are close. Still waiting on a Corvette to beat AMG GT or the 911 GT2 RS or Huracan Evo on a track. And guess what, without all wheel drive it won’t, does this Z06 have AWD? Sure there is money, but they have never sold a Corvette in China, so it has no following, Chevy is an economy car brand there, and the price advantage the Corvette has in the USA over some Europeans won’t be as great there. So I don’t except it to be a big seller. I think it would make sense to do a 4 cylinder hybrid Corvette for here and China, they could use the CT4-V powertrain with a 48 volt hybrid and have a car that starts at $50k here and skirts some displacement tax there.

Every SL looks good, the SLS AMG with the gullwing doors, McLaren SLR, S-class coupe and convertible of this generation, 2004 CLS, G-wagon looks good too.

Only way Corvette gets to 80-100k sales a year is if they make it an SUV, which is a terrible idea. I would not be surprised if by 2030 the Mustang Mach-E is outselling the Mustang coupe by so much that they kill the coupe. The Mach-E already outsells the coupe, with the direction coupe sales are going, it would be quite easy for Ford to kill the coupe/convertible and just call that SUV the Mustang and say it is what the market wants.

It is a hell of a track car, it is the Nurburgring record holder.

25% import tax in China plus 40% displacement tax on engines over 4.0 liter. Plus GM has to cover costs of getting it certified for China or whatever needs done, the $70k Corvette here is probably $125k or more in China, if they get it there. And in Germany the C8 is supposed to cost 99,000 euros or $110k and will 30 hp due to stricter emissions. The value equation starts to reduce a bit in export markets.