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I read it all, but it sounds like they want to move the XTS to read drive, and it said the "flagship" still isn't approved. So it could be a while before a flagship car is done. The Ford Taurus has a turbo V6, doesn't make it a flagship sedan.

This sounds to me like they plan to replace the XTS with a rear drive model, yet continue on with the 310 hp V6. And not really build an S-class competitor. This seems like a Hyundai Equus competitor with a weaker engine. It would be nice if they went with an S-class competitor and a big luxury coupe, but as Car and Driver pointed out, what engine does GM have for that sort of car? I do think they should keep Omega as Cadillac only, will be interesting to see what happens with it, but it looks like it will be a while before we find out.

Awesome.

Jeers.

I could see this more for the Mini engines and probably small diesels for Europe. BMW has the straight six covered, they each have a good V8. Hybrid or fuel cell and other alternatives to gasoline I think what the partnership owuld be used for.

Prices are correct. The 2.5 has to be be cheap because the engine is cheap. The 2.0T is priced the same as the 2.0T you get from BMW and the V6 is priced even with the 335i and slightly above the C350. So they have gone head on with the 3-series and I like that. We'd need to see the equipment list to really compare though. But I am glad they are pricing right against the Germans for a change, and expect the CTS V6 (which is cheaper than an ATS V6) to go up in price. The drawback of the ATS I fear could be the 6-speed, the rest of the segment has moved on from those. Cadillac's press release said 0-60 of under 6 seconds for the V6, but a 328i can do it in 5.4 seconds, a 335 down near 4.8. Will be interesting to see what the ATS's performance stats are and how the comparos go.

The engine isn't the problem, in 9 years on the Aurora V8 I've had to replace oxygen sensors, some wiring and a power steering line. That's it, unless you count 3 engine mounts. My engine has been rock solid, it is the rest of the car that will fall apart around it. The build quality of a GM car, especially one of the old generation is what would worry me. Post bankruptcy cars may be better. In this case, I like an MKZ over a Buick.

Actually the Lincoln MKZ isa good used car buy also, they can be had for under $20k and they always did well on JD Power reliability ratings. And the chassis isn't from the 1980s like the Town Car or W-body.

I have a G-body car, it was not cheap to maintain. So hard to say with a Lucerne. I had 3 power windows break on my car, I think it is just GM build quality and luck of the draw. The 3.6 with a 6-speed shouldn't be much worse on gas than a 3900/4-speed. But again, if cost of ownership, then I go back to a 2011 Sonata GLS which used are about $18k.

With an uncertain job situation it may not be a good idea to get a new car, but if you absolutely need one, I'd go lower on the price scale which rules out $27k on a LaCrosse. The Lucerne is so dated dated though, it was dated when it was new, imagine it in 5 years time. Aside from the Hyundai Sonata (the best car ever) I would say a 2006-2009 Cadillac STS is actually the best choice. An 07 STS is around $20,000.

They ruined yet

A BMW 328i can cross $50,000 with all the toys. Although I think that is too much for a 4-banger, I can easily see a V6 ATS hitting $50k, since a C350 or Audi S4 can, and a V6 CTS does as well.

Nice, I like oddball classics.

True on all acounts. Dealer pricing anywhere is high, I think it is cheaper and easier to deal with the Jiffy Lube, Midas, Mieneke type service shops. And my car is hard to work on. But I will say they are friendly and fix the car right every time in Wexford.

Torque. 328i: 260 lb-ft @ 1250 rpm A4: 258 lb-ft @ 1500 rpm C250: 229 lb-ft @ 2200 RPM (and that is weak engine for the class) ATS: 190 lb-ft @ 4400 RPM ATS also has 6 gears, while BMW and Audi have 8. 328i and A4 2.0T both do 0-60 in 5.6 seconds so that should be the target for a base model ATS, and 34 mpg.

They are a dated dealer, they also charge a lot. I had a quote a couple years back for $2800 from them to replace a solenid and torque converter, and a transmission repair place did it for $1400. So to me the dealer doesn't matter too much on buying a car, I probably wouldn't go back to it very much anyway. I buy a car, not a dealership, although a fancy dealership may get some people to get a good feeling about the product that is in it.

A Lincoln MKZ is 34,755. Surely an ATS should cost as much as a luxury trim Fusion. I think $34,000 is a reasonable starting point for an ATS, around $40,000 for a V6. Although that 2.5 engine is bad, that might get the car cheaper. But if it is meant to take on the 3-series, it should have 3-series pricing.

It is a really nice car, $50k seems steep though, but at a lower price I say cheers.

Even with a great interior, it is still a slow electric car, that has heavy batteries and probably won't handle like a Cadillac should. However it is still less lame than a Ferarri hybrid.

If Mercedes and BMW have such poor images and are just fleet whores in Europe, why can't Cadillac make it in Europe? How many Cadillacs sold in Germany last year? And why can't Cadillac compete with BMW or Mercedes in the USA? What about China, where Audi is the government sedan of choice, and Mercedes and BMW are not the taxi, yet they are #2 and #3 selling 150-170,000 cars each there. Cadillac sold 28,000 cars in China last year, 3% of the luxury car market there. The Audi Q5 alone sold 32,000 in China, with the Audi brand doing 225,000 sales. China in 2015 is expected to have a larger premium car market than the USA does. Cadillac can't be a 3% player there, and in the USA see sales drop from 235,000 in 2005, to 152,000 in 2011, while having almost no presence in Europe.

Cheers.

Good buy if it didn't have the diesel engine. Since it has 17,000 miles already, the engine will probably blow soon. It is really nice car in good condition, but it has the wrong engine (unless you don't drive anywhere).

No.

I don't care for smallish SUVs, but that diesel engine is sweet. 8-speed transmission is nice also. The supercharged V6 is surprising, not sure why it doesn't make around 310 hp and lb-ft like it does in other Audi products. The gas V6 seems weak, better off with the diesel.

And yet, the CTS still has a plasticy interior, and Cadillac can't manage to get any sales in Europe. And Cadillac is still drifing around 5th place in sales in their home market. If Mercedes is so flawed, it should be easy for Cadillac pass them by and make a $100k car that sells 75,000 units globally per year, and get 500k sales out of the CTS and ATS. It would be easy but people are hung up on a name and GM still has to overcome 20+ years of Consumer reports and news bashing them even when they did not deserve it. No they still get no respectible press. Righ so how does one change that image? Better product, flagship sedan, halo sports car, longer warranty, expanded roadside assistance, better service/dealer experience, advertising, etc. But mainly better product, and not a Chevy Impala with extra wood trim and a touch screen.