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And after 1981 they made a limo in the 90s, then again in the early 2000s, then again in 2007-2013.
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The old Maybach was saddled on a really old W140 platform, and really expensive and I think a lot of people didn't know what it was. People know the S-class, the S-class is a sales winner, and they'll find enough people to buy an extended length S600 with an over the top interior. They have always had a factory made Pullman limo and an armored version, so nothing new there. Mercedes took a old military SUV, gave it 6 wheels and a pick up bed in back and are charging $500,000 for it and are sold out, so I am sure they can sell some $250k S600 limos.
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Mercedez Benz News Mercedes-Benz Ponders An 'On-Road' SUV Lineup
smk4565 replied to William Maley's topic in Mercedes-Benz
SUV coupes are dumb, but Mercedes version does look better than the X6. I imagine about 95% of SUV buyers of any brand don't go off road, the GLK doesn't need to have off road capability, nor does the GLA. The M-class is debatable, I would say it does because you need something that goes off road that isn't $100k like the G-wagen.- 8 replies
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People buy an S-class to say how they are wealthier and better than Lexus, Audi or BMW drivers. But they need an S-class Maybach for people who believe they are better than other S-class drivers, and an S-class Pullman for the people that believe they are better than the guy with the Maybach.
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Hard to see them charging double for what is mostly a trim package, unless they do a lot of changes to the car. But note that in Euros the S600 converts to $228,000, while it is sold here for about $160,000. So double the S600 price could be $300k, still too much for an extended S-class. They could charge that for the Pullman limo though with ease.
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250 hp is enough for a 3,000 lb car, and I believe a turbo version of the Toyabaru GT86 is coming which will address the power concerns, and a convertible is rumored too. The Mustang is supposed to lose a little weight, that gives you 300 hp, well under $30,000 and about 3400 lbs, not bad at all. The Genesis coupe and Kia Stinger if they build it would fit in also. There just isn't a lot of demand for these kind of cars though, the 370Z is a slow seller, the Mustang does well but how many of those are rental fleets also.
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It will outsell the Malibu though.
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A better refresh would have been to leave the front end alone, and add the 3.0 diesel to it, if they can get 30 mpg on a Grand Cherokee, I bet they could get 33 on a Charger. And the police would love that too since diesels run forever.
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I love a V8, that is why a bought a V8 car, but Chrysler's V8s don't make that much power. And I am not convinced anything Chrysler makes will last 250k miles, I hardly ever see Chrysler products from the 90s anymore, seems like after 10 years their cars are done. The Ram 3 liter Diesel makes as much torque as the 6.4 V8 if the goal is rock climbing that would do it. If anything the Power Wagon should have the Cummins turbo diesel, that has 800 lb-ft of torque, that is some serious power.
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They might not when their 6.4L V8 loses a race to a 3.5 V6 aluminum F-150.
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Accord buyers looking to trade up will probably like it. But anyone considering this car should go buy the 2015 C-class instead. I'd imagine they aren't goint to compete much with BMW or Infiniti since performance minded drivers don't want a FWD car.
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I don't like the Dart front end on the Charger or the narrow headlights. There doesn't seem to be a lot new here, it is like the Cruze or Infiniti Q70 and QX80 refreshes, it doesn't seem like they really did too much, other than make the front ends look worse. At least they dumped the 5-speed automatic on the V8 models.
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Yep, looks too much like a Kia, I like the old one better. The rear taillights look similar to any Toyota or Ford, it seems like tail lights of all cars are looking like that. The interior is improved, less plasticy and more traditional styling, not so alien-futuristic with the all the vertical trapezoids in the old car. I like the flat bottom steering wheel and the center console looks more upscale. I'd say interior is better, exterior is worse, engines have less power, but that might not be noticeable in every day driving and maybe they got another 1 mpg out of it.
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How much MPG can you get from a 6.4 liter engine? The problem is Chrysler doesn't want to develop a new engine. They could have done a twin turbo Pentastar V6 and gotten more hp and better mpg than an old tech 6.4 liter V8. I still think a V10 like the 90s Ram had would have been a better idea if they are going for low volume and huge power.
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8-9 speed transmissions are impressive for Acura, but it is still an Accord with a 20 hp increase.
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It looks a little goofy, but I think it is proportions you get with a really short overall length. The interior does look sort of cheap, but if the price is cheap, that won't be a problem. If the Nissan Cube and Scion Box are the competition, they should do fine, although the Kia Soul is a dominating force in the small box segment.
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It does look more like an Avalon which might make it look more premium. But I wouldn't call it exciting, and those engines are from like 2005.
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$25-28k for a Cruze seems like a lot to me. If it were a Verano or Malibu diesel for $28k, I think it would be a better deal. That being said, I think they should put the diesel in more vehicles, and perhaps some powertrain and transmission refinement needs done also. Should they get an 8 or 9 speed transmission for front wheel drive cars, that might solve some issues and add to the mileage.
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6.4 liter V8 and 410 hp? That is awful, there are V6s with more power, the CTS twin turbo has more power out of 3.6 liters. You'd think a "Power Wagon" would have like 500 hp. Why not put the V10 in the Ram like they used to, even if it wasn't to Viper tune, they could still have 550 hp from the V10, that would be more ridiculous and over the top.
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45 mpg is nice, but this car is boring squared. I think it is less interesting looking than the Corolla.
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This is like the 2008 STS makeover, that did basically nothing to help the car. I think they made the Cruze uglier and more Kia looking. Chevy seems to be making there cars look more Asian, I think the back of the Impala looks like a Hyundai. Chevy's design language seems to be getting lost, they either copy the South Korean brands or use 4 square rear lights and relive old school Camaro styling. Can't they imagine something more creative than that?
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The front does look a bit like the Town and Country or Routan. But overall it looks like a pretty nice van, nice dashboard for a minivan and 276 hp is pretty stout for this segment. Looks like a strong player overall.
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Looks like the front end got smashed in. A pretty weak MCE.
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I like it, I like the interior layout too. It is amazing how far small cars have come in 15 or so years. Look at a 90s (or even 2002) Cavalier or Escort and how bad they were, now you have small cars with leather, dual zone automatic climate control, Nav systems, heated seats, etc.
