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Electric cars get some headlines, but electric cars and hybrids are still like 2% of the overall market. So I wonder if it is even worth bothering making a Tesla competitor. Unless it gets merged with their idea of a 4-door GT car.

I have always said the Corvette should stick to being an affordable sports car. To me the Corvette should be in the $50-70k segment, but GM a few years ago was selling $125,000 Corvettes and $75,000 Camaros. That is no longer making affordable sports cars. That would be like Mazda making a $45,000 twin turbo V6 Miata, at that point it isn't a Miata any more. I think GM and some Corvette fans want to compare it to Ferrari or Lamborghini, but the Corvette isn't a hand built exotic with a 8,000 rpm V12. Which is fine, the Corvette is a different kind a car, and the performance per dollar is still good. Corvette is the best sports car under $100k.

The XE will get sales due to price point, the F-Pace will get some since it is a crossover. As far as the XF, XJ and F-type go, I don't think the price cuts or free maintenance or warranty changes will do much for sales of those models. I will say that their 5 year/60,000 mile roadside assistance package falls a bit below the unlimited years and unlimited miles Mercedes program. But if buying a Jaguar, I would want a 5/60k warranty at least, I'd probably want the 10 year/100k mile Hyundai warranty, because you know that Jag is going to break down.

I think the AMG S cars with the 503 hp might become the standard car in a couple years, but maybe not, just my guess. They are working on a 600 hp version of that engine, I am sure the GT will have a track purposed Black series with the more powerful engine. That is a Grand Touring car after all, they didn't call it the AMG TC (track car).

The CTS-V and Corvette posted great times, the CTS-V with 640 hp should post the fastest sedan time, no sedans really went much over 550 hp before last year. The Corvette has always posted great performance per dollar, the Z06 has always been a good track car. It is impressive that the Corvette beat the Hurcan and McLaren, because those are exotics built for speed. the level of performance you get for the price of a Corvette is amazing, it just seems to still have a bit of a redneck muscle car image, doesn't seem as cool as an Aston Martin or something like that. What I found most surprising is the Ecoboost Mustang was slower than a John Cooper Works Mini and a Golf GTI. That is a pretty weak showing. The Mustang was barely faster than the Miata which has like 160 hp.

All good moves, but they are such a small brand, I don't know how much it will move the sales needle. I do think the XE is really well priced. $35k for the turbo 4, and the diesel is like $37k, and the 340 hp supercharged V6 is $43k. That supercharged V6 car is going to be pretty fast, and $43k isn't a lot for that kind of speed. Nice to see them drop the 4-banger in the XF, if Jaguar is a performance brand, it doesn't need a 4-banger in a $50k car.

Knobs still work best for volume. Touch screens still get covered in fingerprints.

There was an s-class convertible in the 60s, and an s-class coupe in the 70s and 80s. They have offered the Pullman limos for decades as well. And in the 70s the 450sel 6.9 liter was pretty much the first of the muscle luxury cars. The S-class has always determined where the luxury segment is going, it leads the way, the others follow.

Because the S-class pioneered crash crumple zones, was the first car with ABS, first with airbags, first to have satellite navigation, first to have standard stability control, first to use double pane side glass, first with all LED lighting, etc. It has been the technological pioneer for the automotive industry for nearly 50 years. Body styles and engine choices give S-class the ability to appeal to many types of buyers globally which is why it has been the large luxury car sales leader. They have sedan, coupe, convertible, AMG and Maybach versions and diesel and gas hybrids, diesel V6 and gas V6, V8, and V12. None of the other guys offer that variety.

This is a good idea, the Wrangler still sells well and has a following, and people like pickups. And FCA doesn't have anything smaller than the Ram. So it fills a void and expands upon a popular existing model.

Well of course not, the S-class is the best car in the world.

Mercedes CLS length: 194.5 inches Cadillac CT6 length: 204 inches S-class sedan length: 207 inches I think when this project was approved they wanted the Omega car to be an S-class competitor, but then they realised half way through that they don't have the engines or technology to do it, so they said it was not an S-class competitor and called it CT6. An unnamed Cadillac exec even said in 2014 that the S-class was a lot better than they thought it would be.

First off, if you are going to drop $132k on this, you'd be a fool not to spend the extra $10k for Ludicrous mode. Once you are in for $132,000, you might as well go to $142,000. Secondly, crossover buyers are fools, and will pay more for a box shaped vehicle than a sedan shaped vehicle with the same powertrain on the same chassis. See Toyota Highlander price vs Toyota Camry price as an example. And finally, how do people get out of the car in a garage? You can't open those back doors in a garage, so people would have to get out of the car, then the driver pull in. Gullwing doors might work on a low slug sports car, on an SUV those doors will be like 8 feet in the air.

The S-class has a V8 and V12, so obviously it is going to be heavier than a V6 car. And really a lot of these so called high end sedans aren't competing directly against the S-class. Jaguar, Audi and BMW all sell mostly 6-cylinder flagships, their top end competes with the S-class low end. And the S-class outsold the 7-series, LS460, XJ, and A8 combined last month. The CT6 is 204 inches long, a Lexus LS460 is 200 inches long, and 4,233 lbs, so I'd say that is probably the CT6's closest competitor. Maybe Jaguar XJ, is they try to push the CT6 as more of a sport sedan. The CT6 is too big to compete with a CLS or 6-series, the CTS is bigger than a CLS, the CLS has the same chassis and wheelbase as an E-class. The 6-series gran coupe is just stupid, a 4 door version of a 5-series coupe that costs more than a 7-series is pointless. I think with the new 7-series, no one will be buying the 6-series gran coupe.

An S400 all wheel drive with a 3 liter TT V6 which is sold elsewhere around the world is 4,189 lbs to 4,398 lbs. Depending on wheelbase length and options. That is fairly close to the CT6 weight. But the Jaguar and Audi have weighed less than the S-class for years and it did nothing for them. I think maybe the CT6 will line up better with the Maybach E-class, currently in testing.

4,150 lbs for a long wheelbase Jaguar XJ with a 470 hp supercharged V8. And they didn't quite dethrone the S-class did they.

Not surprised at all by the final weights. I always said the TT V6 would be over 4,000 lbs, and with the options it is over 4,300 lbs. Getting awfully close to the bigger, V8 S-class in weight. And 4,300 lbs is about what a 6-cylinder 7-series weighs. So this huge weight advantage isn't really there when you compare similar models. The base model is low weight, but it has no options or tech and a 4-banger, and no one will buy it anyway.

Maybe the MKZ can go KITT style and copy this wheel.

So the 2 spoke wheel on the S-class is looking pretty good all of a sudden. Non one else does that.

Compare an MKZ to an A4 or C-class. The C-class doesn't even use plastic window switches, the MKZ has acres of black plastic. If anything, the MKX interior should be Audi A6 level because they aren't spending any money on the power train or chassis.

Not in the least. If nothing else, MKC and MKX are currently enough to preserve Lincoln. A new aluminum Navigator is coming (none too soon), and a refreshed MKZ (also a bit past due). That puts Lincoln at least on par with Acura and Acura isn't going anywhere anytime soon. The MKZ came out in 2013 model year, it needs a refresh already? And how do you refresh it, it is still a Fusion. The GLC should put the hurt on the 2 Lincoln crossovers, now that Mercedes doesn't have an ugly c-segment crossover, they can actually get sales, and the yuppies can buy Q3s for less than a Lincoln. Why buy a Lincoln and have to explain to your neighbor why you did it, when you can buy and Audi or Benz and be proud.

A Honda Accord is better than an MKS at this point. I think the Continental will help seal the fate of the Lincoln brand. They'll spend all this money on the car, sales will tank and they'll realize that the brand is dead and it is time to call it a wrap.

Chrysler does have a lot of good names. Not always great products, but they come up with great names. Intrepid, Stealth, Barricuda, Charger, Challenger, Imperial, Avenger, Prowler, Viper, etc. They all sound big, scary or dangerous.

The Tesla must be better than perfect. CR should retro-active adjust all other scores and take 3 points off every car off all time. If Toyota ever makes an all electric Prius it will probably get 110 points out of a possible 100.

I think Lincoln could price the Continental at $39,995 (including destination charge) and the Lexus ES will still mop the floor with it in sales. Good luck getting people to buy a full size Lincoln sedan.